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post #1 of 38 Old 12-28-2012, 08:02 PM Thread Starter
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hard to catch horse

the gelding, which has been at the trainer for over 120 days and counting (a completely different story, also in another thread labeled crazy bucking horse!!) is a pain in the butt to catch.

Doesnt matter what you do, he is always unwilling to be caught, no matter how small or large or a pen, halter in hand or not, gentle approach or anythng, he just really likes to put up a fight to being caught...

Suggestions??

My other two horses here at the house do great, I have no problem catching them when I want.

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post #2 of 38 Old 12-28-2012, 08:15 PM
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When I walk up to a horse, I like for them to turn around and face me and not walk away. Get you horse in a round pen or corral, and take the halter off. Leave him in there for awhile and let him think he has been "turned out". Now approach him with the halter in full view, when he begins walking away from you, make him work, get him going the direction he walked away from you in. Let him work for awhile and then try approaching him again. If he walks aways, repeat and start working him again. Keep this going and when that horse gives even the slightest glimpse in your direction, looks towards your or stops and turns toward you, drop your head and walk backwards away from him. Then he see facing you and walking towards you, halter or not, as a release of pressure. This takes a little patience and maybe a little time, but it has never failed me. I've used it on spoiled, hard to catch horses and horses that have never seen a human before. Either way it works.
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post #3 of 38 Old 12-28-2012, 08:17 PM Thread Starter
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You actually have no idea how many times I have done this lol somedays I would be out there for 3-4 hours working him crazy because he wouldn't even face me let alone let me come towards him, with or without the halter. He literally would choosing to start trotting around again than let me come up to him. I've done this tons and tons, no change
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post #4 of 38 Old 12-28-2012, 08:21 PM
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I can't tell by your post whether he's hard to catch for the trainer, for you, or for both, but he's hard to catch because he associates "bummers" with being caught: boring drills demanded by boring humans, etc. The only way is to improve his mental association with being haltered by offering him things that he likes along with/after the haltering. There are a ton of threads on here sharing a lot of those ways.
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when do you catch him? How do you catch him? I have had a few horses that don't want to be caught. They straighten right up when they have to be caught in order to get fed. If you can get the horse to where he has to be caught to get grain. Try to catch him one morning. Give him 5 minutes then take the grain away if he does not approach and come back out in 2 hours. Give him 5 minutes and take the grain away if he does not approach. Catch him, reward him and let him go. Lather rinse, repeat. The longest I have had a mare resist this was 12 hours. The mare went from running the morning before and standing at the gate for me that evening wanting her grain.
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post #6 of 38 Old 12-28-2012, 08:23 PM
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Have you worn him out to the point where he's about ready to collapse? Some horses just have to get to that point before you can reach them. I have horses lay down in the round pen before they let me catch them. Sometimes it takes ALOT. Like four of five hours worth lol.
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post #7 of 38 Old 12-28-2012, 08:37 PM
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There's another thread on this going right now, with good advice Horse Walks away from you at the sight of a halter...
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The way my trainer fixed this problem with one of her boarders horses is (at random times) she would walk into the pasture, rattle a bucket of grain, and wait for the horse to come. She would bring a halter and lead, but not use it till the horse eagerly comes to her. Once the horse came to her, she'd put his halter on while he eats the grain, and then took it off. If he still came to her she'd do that again and add in little walks around the pasture and she eventually started lunging him whenever she brought him grain.
After two months of doing those steps be came to her because he knew she'd have food, so she did have to keep on bringing a handful here and there or a peppermint.
When she actually had to bring him in, she'd do the same steps and just make sure to walk into the pasture with him an extra time or two.
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Not to over-butter my own biscuit or anything but it's been awhile since I've met a horse I couldn't get caught, even in a larger area. The key is persistence, and here's how I do it. When he walks away, follow him. Notice I didn't say chase. That little part can make all the difference in the world, and it took a few years of thinking on that very difference until it began to really work for me.

Anyway, when he walks away follow him.

When he walks toward you, back away.

When he stops, you stop.

When he stands still and waits, approach him as non-threateningly and as smoothly as possible, and halter him.

If he leaves, let him. Start again. It may take awhile so plan for it ahead of time.

Finally, make sure that no matter what you do with him while he's caught and is required to be with you, that you don't quit him until his mind is right and he's cool with you. Don't put him up until he's in the frame of mind that you want him to be in tomorrow.
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Not to over-butter my own biscuit or anything but it's been awhile since I've met a horse I couldn't get caught, even in a larger area. The key is persistence, and here's how I do it. When he walks away, follow him. Notice I didn't say chase. That little part can make all the difference in the world, and it took a few years of thinking on that very difference until it began to really work for me.

Anyway, when he walks away follow him.

When he walks toward you, back away.

When he stops, you stop.

When he stands still and waits, approach him as non-threateningly and as smoothly as possible, and halter him.

If he leaves, let him. Start again. It may take awhile so plan for it ahead of time.

Finally, make sure that no matter what you do with him while he's caught and is required to be with you, that you don't quit him until his mind is right and he's cool with you. Don't put him up until he's in the frame of mind that you want him to be in tomorrow.

I like this, however , if the horse turns away from me, I usually make some kind of noise that makes him uncomfortable. He'll either jump and trot off or he'll turn and look at me. If he trots off, I walk on after him, but if he trots off and then turns to see what the hassle was about, then I have piqued his curiousity and will back off a bit, like you said. I use the hrose's natural curiosity to encourage it to look back. However, maybe a slower and calmer approach would work better for a more flighty horse.
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