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post #1 of 26 Old 07-02-2013, 03:14 AM Thread Starter
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It has to be me ............I am so discouraged

as some of you might remember 2 years ago this weekend I had a very bad accident on a horse that reared and flipped over on me. I have worked hard to get over the fear and complete lack of confidence the accident left me with and thought I had finally healed mentally as well as physically. I got a new horse about 3 weeks ago and although he has had issues settling in we have come a long ways toward the horse he was when I tried him out. Sunday I took him and my other horse over to a friends and was riding him in the ring when my friends herd of 10 horses went thundering by in the adjoining paddock . My new horse completely lost it and reared straight up. I didn't come off and when I got his feet back on the ground and it was safe to get off him I did so and with a 10ft lead rope I made him really hustle around me in both directions. About 15 minutes after this my friends were ready to go on a trail ride and I went with them. I thought my horse would settle down and he did for a little while and then he got nervous and was very high headed and shaking his head and it felt like he was going to rear again. I got so nervous I was shaking. It was a miserable ride and we turned back when we got to a very swampy part and my horse reared again. I have had friends and a trainer watch me ride and they can't see what I am doing wrong but it must be something no one could have so much bad luck that they would buy 3 different horses that had rearing issues. The previous owner of my new horse was stunned she owned him for years and he never did anything like this. I don't know what to do I am so discouraged and disappointed in myself. I have told myself that I am going to get back on him tomorrow morning but I am dreading it. At this point it feels like when my older horse is ready to retire I will have to retire from riding as well. I am so ashamed and discouraged by the way I feel that I don't even want to tell my friends or family.
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post #2 of 26 Old 07-02-2013, 05:35 AM
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Get somebody else on this horse and get his ass kicked.

If he can tell you're scared, he'll be worse. If your trainer and friends can't see something you are doing, it's either you have bad luck or it's just your fear getting him to act up.

It's okay to be scared, and you have a reason to be afraid. Rearing is not okay, and if you aren't confident deal with it, you should get someone who is or sell this horse and get something totally dead broke. Unless you were totally yanking, pulling, etc I can't imagine there is something in your riding that would make three consecutive rearers in a row. Can we maybe see a video of you on your horse?

I know it's very hard, but you need to demand respect from this horse. Kick the snot out of him. He can't rear if he's too busy running in circles and figure eights thinking "Holy crap, this lady means business!" If you can yield his hindquarters, do that as soon as you feel him tense. He can't rear if he can't plant his butt. Kick him forward at a canter if you feel him rear too. Anything to get his feet moving. By the sounds of it, you can tell when it's coming, and thereby you can prevent it.

If you don't think you can do it (Which is totally okay, don't be ashamed of that) then get somebody with experience dealing with rearers....

It drives me crazy that horses rear up on riders...I wish you lived closer, I would gladly help you give him an attitude adjustment. That is the one thing that a horse can do that absolutely is NEVER acceptable...

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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post #3 of 26 Old 07-02-2013, 05:39 AM
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Oh one more thing - YOU are the predator here. YOU are the herd leader. YOU are in charge. YOU can do this, I promise. You may not think you can, but I know for a fact that you're capable of it. That's my little pep talk, honestly. I don't care if the horse is scared or just being a brat, you're strong enough. Good luck.
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Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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post #4 of 26 Old 07-02-2013, 05:48 AM
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I agree with what Sorrelhorse said!

Maybe you need to spend some time on a bomb proof non rearing easy going horse for a few rides to help get your confidence back because horses can tell when your nervous/scared and it sounds like he is feeding off it.

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post #5 of 26 Old 07-02-2013, 06:22 AM
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Horses sense fear:
If you are nervous, they are nervous.

I recommend riding an utterly bombproof horse for a while, that is guaranteed not to rear.
The reason this has happened to you twice or three times now, is because, the first time it was an accident. Then you most likely never really got over your fear of the horse going over on you. Your new horse sensed that, and panicked. The horses thundering by triggered him, and he reared. Then of course, you were more nervous and so he did it again.
Its not your fault at all, but I think it would do you and the horse, the world of good to ride something really, really quite for a while.
Then, maybe get another, very brave, confident rider up on your horse for a while as well, so it learns that it can't get away with rearing, regardless of the circumstances.
I wish you the best in getting your confidence back!
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post #6 of 26 Old 07-02-2013, 08:01 AM
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Horses want to run when they see other horses running. It's instinct. However this is something that can be overcome. I think the horse does not trust you to be his leader and was acting like that because he felt he needed to protect himself. I think a lot of groundwork may help him.
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post #7 of 26 Old 07-02-2013, 08:09 AM
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Most of the time when a horse rears, it's because the rider has such a grip on his face he feels he has no where to go but up. I'm going to bet that when you get scared and he goes up, it's because you have a death grip on his mouth. Notice I said MOST of the time, not all. You could also just be having bad luck, but I'm guessing it's your hands. I'm with the others, get on a total packer and ride him for a while, AND put your horse with a really good trainer and take some lessons.
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post #8 of 26 Old 07-02-2013, 08:24 AM
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How old is this new horse?
What you need to be on for awhile is some 20 year old "nag" that has seen it all and been there and done that. A horse who is very happy to just stroll along...
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post #9 of 26 Old 07-02-2013, 08:28 AM
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When I first got my horse, he used to try to pull all sorts of stunts on me, rearing, head tossing, stomping, and spinning and he has thrown me off quite a few times to where it really hurt and when I got back up my legs would be trembling when I would get back on him.. But when these things happened I meant business, I got back on and worked him to disengage and stop him from thinking.

Maybe this is the problem, my trainer told me this as well that you shouldn't give a horse time to think about what he's going to do. But also, these things happened before my horse totally 100 percent trusted me and didn't establish me as his leader. Now he does.

I understand though when you're nervous it's very hard to feel confident about working through their issues especially when they reared up on you and got away with it right then and there. I agree with everyone that maybe your trainer or a friend could get on him and work out his attitude, this worked with my horse when I was unable to feel confident.

I had a same situation my horse acted up so terribly I couldn't ride through it and I tried to get off and longe him and it honestly didn't work at all because when I got back on he just tried it again. I think sometimes these things need to be worked out when riding them. If you can't ride them, next time your with him, do some groundwork with pressure and release and get him to move his feet. it does sound like he doesn't respect you yet as his leader.

So anyway let me know how it goes! Don't get discouraged, When you get back on just remember to breathe and focus on breathing when walking him, this works for me.

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post #10 of 26 Old 07-02-2013, 08:28 AM
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I do not think ground work will help at all. Rearing is not natural for horses to do. It is almost 100% caused by rider error or a previous rider's error -- usually lack to asking for forward impulsion when a horse 'stalls out' or pulling too much when a horse is excited. It usually comes from riders being fearful and riding with too tight a rein, riding with both reins instead of one at a time when there is a problem, riding with too much pressure on the reins (why he was slinging his head) and giving a reactive horse no place to go.

I think you need to learn how to take a horse by ONE REIN and push his butt around. When a horse gets wound up and threatens to get out of control, the worst thing you can possibly do is to try to stop him and hold him still. His excitement and forward impulsion will send him UP because you have shut all of the other doors. Either change directions and go forward, or pull his head around and disengage his hind quarters until his 'reactive response' shuts down.

I think you need to learn how to properly use a 'one rein stop' and need to practice it when you don't need it. You cannot do it when the horse is already reactive unless you have taught him to do it ahead of time. Horses going in small circles or horses stopped with their head pulled all the way around and their butt moving away from your inside leg CANNOT REAR! Learn how to do this, Then, when you get fearful or when your horse gets reactive, you have an effective tool that will act just like a 'shut-off switch'. When you teach a horse and rider to do this, it gives the rider a lot more confidence that they have an effective way to handle a tough situation should one occur. Then, you need to remember NOT to try to hold him still any time he is reactive. Remember that he has got to go somewhere. It is your job NOT put him in a position where he can only go up.

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