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post #1 of 64 Old 04-06-2013, 05:52 AM Thread Starter
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so after riding my off the track arabian this week and dealing with..ALOT...of issues..i have done alot..of research..and have realized..i should just be doing ground work with him..starting from the bottom in otherwords..as dissapointed I am over that..i tell myself..it is better to not rush it..for both our sakes..hes only 7..and I will have plenty of time to ride..AFTER he is retrained into a ridable member of society..what made me realize this..is when I was on him..his track mentality hit..hard..head held high..prancing sideways..he will not move straight..nope..and the fact he just wanted to take off at a run the entire time...he loves me and is bonded to me already..so it shouldn't be too difficult...but I would be greatful for some pointers here...i have never had to rehabilitate a off the track arabian..and I cannot afford a trainer so I am on my own here lol..so..what help this wonderful community can give me..would be greatly appreciated..thanks all..and Phoenix will thank you too.

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post #2 of 64 Old 04-06-2013, 09:28 AM
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Sounds like you have some good ideas about needing groundwork. There are many here who use it much more than I, so I will let them speak to that.

When I get one that acts goofy I start even more basic than ground work. What is the horse's diet and what is his opportunity for turn out? What are those, and do you have any options regarding either? From your photo, it looks like you may be in a boarding situation.
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Besides addressing feed and turnout time (being out 24/7 would be the best) I would ask how long since he was on the track. There is a 'let-down' time where it is really pretty pointless to try to train them at all. Stalling during that time will never work. They have to completely let down from the hot feed and conditioning they got on the track.
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Besides addressing feed and turnout time (being out 24/7 would be the best) I would ask how long since he was on the track. There is a 'let-down' time where it is really pretty pointless to try to train them at all. Stalling during that time will never work. They have to completely let down from the hot feed and conditioning they got on the track.
he's been off the track for approximately 4 months, and no I cannot have him turned out 24/7 as I do board him and the only turn out we have is in the arena..which is huge, even when I am not there though, my friend whom I trust turns him out with her horses and he loves that,his diet is low protein..he is underweight still due to neglect and I have him on rice bran for it as well as his normal hay
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For an off-track, I would try to lease a pasture for him and just turn him out for a month or so and then moving him back to your boarding facility, if you can. He really needs turnout and lots of it. Off-tracks need time to come off the environment they were in and all the feed and stress.

Then start with ground work.
Arabians are complex to work with anyway and in my experience harder to retrain off the track than TB's. The need more time to adjust to a new life and more time with their beginning ground work until they accept that this is their new life.
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Something that is easy and has seemed to help my Arabian mare a lot is just walking her around on a lead rope. If she is getting too nervous, I try to turn her around before she melts down. Over time, we went from being able to walk her 100 yards until we could go for miles. It helped me learn to read her body language, and her to gain confidence that she can follow me anywhere. That can pay some big benefits if she is facing a nervous situation on a trail.

BTW - it took 4 months from her arrival before Mia stopped sweating herself into a lather while just standing in the corral. Some horses take a while to relax...
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A little off topic, but im wondering. The racing Arabians I saw in Germany were nowhere near being hyper or hot. I went to several races. There, they don't pony the horses, a groom leads the horses to the track and releases them. My favourite spot, I love it when they take off. But the Arabians never did. They walked up to the starting gate, an occasional one trotted. No sweat, no dancing no prancing.
I found no explanation, other than there most Arabians are owner- trained.
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A little off topic, but im wondering. The racing Arabians I saw in Germany were nowhere near being hyper or hot. I went to several races. There, they don't pony the horses, a groom leads the horses to the track and releases them. My favourite spot, I love it when they take off. But the Arabians never did. They walked up to the starting gate, an occasional one trotted. No sweat, no dancing no prancing.
I found no explanation, other than there most Arabians are owner- trained.

Not all Arabs are nutty and not all racehorses are nutty. Lots of variables :feed, breeding, age, training, weather....
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Not all Arabs are nutty and not all racehorses are nutty. Lots of variables :feed, breeding, age, training, weather....
I'm very well aware of that. I always had TB's and Arabians
I find it rather interesting that a racer, or ex racer would behave like the OP states.
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Sounds like he wasn't given time to adjust.
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