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post #11 of 23 Old 01-08-2012, 03:47 PM Thread Starter
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My spooky mare was given her first lesson in this Friday. The foundation was a month or more of work desensitizing her hind quarters and rear legs. Nothing scared her more than something touching her hind legs, so this was a good thing to move toward - but AFTER getting her used to ropes touching anywhere on her hind leg or hip.

For her lesson, the trainer started by pulling a 4' long 4x4 on a lariat in front of Mia. When she was OK with that, she pulled it beside her while walking. Then she let it trail back behind Mia, with the trainer still holding the end of the rope near the horn. When Mia was OK with both sides doing that, she went to a half-loop around the horn. She eventually worked up to 1.5 loops around the horn (but not tied). She thought that was very good progress for 30 min, and then went on to work her on just drive reins.

For practice over the weekend, she recommended just pulling it along with my hand next to the horn, rather than wrapping it at all. Mia is calming down, and we do NOT want a bad experience to undo nearly 2 months of work!
thank you so much! (: thanks for all the steps and I believe I will take this exact approach. Good luck with you and your mare!
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post #12 of 23 Old 01-08-2012, 03:52 PM Thread Starter
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What CowChick said

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That was a very nice video, thank you!! (:
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post #13 of 23 Old 01-08-2012, 03:53 PM
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I had my 3 year old pull sagebrush out of the ground (pretty much like pulling a small tree...) this summer. I also just dropped a loop on just about anything for a few rides and pulled it. It made her stronger and less scared of everything. :)

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post #14 of 23 Old 01-08-2012, 03:54 PM
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wrap the line around horn a turn or two and hold it. The horn takes most of the load but you can let it off.
I don't think you guys have thought out the knife thing.
Think about. You are on a horse, horse is dancing around, and freaking out and your going to pull a knife out ? Seriously ? Don't think I wanna be flopping around on a horse with an open knife. Didnt you mama ever teach you guys not to run with scissors ?
Another thing to consider is any significant load or if the load gets stuck, the line is going to be right across your leg, horse snatches forward guess what? Your leg gets mashed into the horse even harder. SOunds like a recipe for disaster and probably why you see ropers back up from loads.
I havent ever really pulled anything but just some thoughts.
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wrap the line around horn a turn or two and hold it. The horn takes most of the load but you can let it off.
I don't think you guys have thought out the knife thing.
Think about. You are on a horse, horse is dancing around, and freaking out and your going to pull a knife out ? Seriously ? Don't think I wanna be flopping around on a horse with an open knife. Didnt you mama ever teach you guys not to run with scissors ?
Another thing to consider is any significant load or if the load gets stuck, the line is going to be right across your leg, horse snatches forward guess what? Your leg gets mashed into the horse even harder. SOunds like a recipe for disaster and probably why you see ropers back up from loads.
I havent ever really pulled anything but just some thoughts.
ahaha didn't think about the knife thing. Thanks!
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Another thing to consider is any significant load or if the load gets stuck, the line is going to be right across your leg, horse snatches forward guess what? Your leg gets mashed into the horse even harder. SOunds like a recipe for disaster and probably why you see ropers back up from loads.
Actually, that is completely backward. If the load is heavy, then the horse needs to be facing forward, away from the rope because horses have limited power going backward (but you shouldn't be pulling anything terribly heavy on a young horse anyway until they get the hang of it). The only time you will see a roper facing what they are dragging is when they are stopped and simply holding the pressure on it. The only time they will back up instead of turning and facing the other way is if they just need to take a couple of steps to keep the rope tight.

Pulling:


In this picture, the rope had come tight and we were beginning to face up. That is why his left hind leg is stepping sideways instead of forward.




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If the load gets stuck, then you need to stop pulling altogether until the load gets unstuck. If a load is stuck and you keep asking a young horse to pull, when they realize that they can't and they quit on you, you're screwed because you'll have trouble getting them to really pull again. That is why it is so important that you tell them to stop before they have to quit on their own.

About the leg thing, yes, your leg will get smashed, yes it is going to hurt, and yes, you will be bruised, but that's just a part of roping/dragging off of horses. When I work calves in the springtime, my right leg just pretty much stays a lovely blue shade until it's all done.

Now, back to the OP. Ditto everything that Chick and Bsms said.

Also, while it is exceptionally handy to have a knife at all times for various reasons, the only time I've ever seen a roper end up in a bad enough wreck to need it was when he was tied off to the horn (where you tie a knot in the tail of your rope and tie it to the horn. You cannot get it off once there is pressure on it). His horse freaked and he ended up with the rope around his back, which basically seat-belted him into the saddle, then the horse got his legs tangled and went down. All of this with a cow on the end of the rope that weighed about 800. The guy managed to get his knife out and cut the rope loose and the cow proceeded to pull it the rest of the way off of them so that they could get up.

All that being said, I prefer to pull stuff from the saddle as opposed to on the ground just because I feel like I have better control of them that way. I used to have a couple of big old logs that had been lashed together that I used but at some point while I was living in Amarillo, those disappeared somewhere so nowadays I use this.
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I would not tie to the horn but take a couple of dallys and then just hang on to the end, make sure to keep your thumb up out of the ways so it doesn't get caught in your wraps.
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"Thumbs up when you take your turns"
I know a couple people with a missing left thumb.

Make sure your horse always turns away from the rope, cause if the horse turns into the rope, you have a wreck waiting to happen... and if you're turning right while pulling, make sure the rope stays snug so it can't get under the horses' legs.

During branding season, my leg blue/purple for the season. I always get elected to rope....

I've ponied colts around for their first saddling/first ride:






It takes on heck of a good minded horse to pony and hold bucking horses.
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Having a bruised leg is part of roping, however having a higher cantle board helps. My last saddle I had made has a 5.75" high cantle.
If I caught some flesh in between my rope and cantle, I just move his hip to left a little to get my leg out from underneath and then reposition.
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post #20 of 23 Old 01-09-2012, 09:26 AM
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Cool pictures QHriderKE!!! Having a horse that can work a rope is one of the best things you can teach them IMO.

This gelding was having problems leading up and he was know to set back when tied.



In a matter of 10-15 minutes my little black mare and I had him stepping up and moving out.


Nobody was hurt, we didn't break 5 lead ropes, and as you can see at the end he wasn't traumatized.

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