Cheyenne has had 3 months training on her as a 2 or 3 year old. She did really well for the trainer and eventually the trainer decided that she was good enough for the original owners to handle her on their own. They were not able to be consistent with her, however, and she started doing the same stuff she is doing with me. It seems she gets very sour if not worked consistently. They thought enough is enough and sold her. They sold her to a girl and her trainer and they worked with her for a short while. Again, they were not able to be consistent and I think Cheyenne's bucking and crow hopping scared the girl and she put her up for sale. When my trainer and I went to see if she'd be good enough to buy, her situation was pretty bad. She was in a very negative environment (turned out 24/7 in a pasture with 6 or 7 other horses who shunned her from the herd, and the owners had a pack of 4 or 5 dogs that chased the horses all the time). She took her and put her in the round pen to show us and she was very nervous and upset. She saddled her up and she crow hopped with the saddle on a few times. When she got on you could tell that she was still nervous but she did walk/trot both directions. The girl didn't do barely any canter work with her but asked her for a canter then (why you would ask for a new command when showing a horse to a potential buyer is beyond me) and she crow hopped with her on twice (we understood it was just because she had no idea what was being asked of her). We decided to take her on a month long trial because she had a very sweet personality and with thought her issues might be situational. When we got her she did not even know the cue for the canter, how to stand on cross ties, did not know her leads, where to put her head, and how to lunge correctly. We started very slowly and had no kicking out issues until recently. She was doing great.
By "spinning around" I mean a one rein stop kind of thing. My trainer says it is important to keep her going forward since that is the issue at hand (refusing to want to go forward) so spinning her seems to "reset" her or so it was explained to me.
I am guilty of taking my leg off when she kicks out at times. I fully understand that it is the WRONG thing to do. I try my best to keep my leg on through her hissy fits until she does the correct thing and walks forward. I understand that my actions could escalate the problem, which is why I am asking for help now. I do try my absolute best to keep the leg on her until I get what I want. Easier said then done at times.
Another thing to note, and it may or may not be related, but she is very sensitive to touch. I mean, even brushing her. She doesn't prefer it at all (I make sure to brush her sensitive parts even more). She has kicked out numerous times on cross ties when I brush by her flanks or touch her chest area. She is of course reprimanded for this behavior. I mention this because if it is happening on cross ties it probably needs to be corrected there first.
I have considered getting another trainer. My trainer has not been out since she got tossed off. She has been helping me with this and I am kind of at an odd point with her. She has been my riding instructor for 11 years and she has helped me with Cheyenne for free. She has backed off a bit and I'm not sure if it's because she doesn't want to interfere or maybe she is sick of doing it without getting paid. I am at the point where I am going to ask her if she is able to come out consistently a few times a week until I get Cheyenne back on track and I guess I'm going to offer her money. If she can not do it I will find someone else. I understand that this problem is serious and until I learn how to properly deal with it, it will only get worse.
Thanks for your response.
Have you thought about what may be causing this problem? Also have you considered getting a different trainer? I think "spinning" her around is foolish and counterproductive and I question the trainer that would let you think that's the thing to do. Was this horse broke before you got her or did you and the trainer do it? Rather than punish a horse for a behavior you're a lot better off to help the horse find what you want it to do. I would guess that you're actually traing the horse to kick when you put leg on her. You put your leg on her, she kicks, you take your leg off her. She's learning exactly what you're teaching her and she's learning it quite well. At first she would only do it at a lope and now she'll do it at a walk.