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        03-05-2011, 08:07 PM
      #11
    Weanling
    I am going to give him a chance. He was really surprised by my horse, like every trainer. He seems a little set in his ways though...like only one way to lunge a horse. He is supposed to be a really good rider: grand prix jumping rider and a relatively high level dressage rider. When he did get on my horse, his position really didn't seem balanced. His stirrups were very short and he was in a "seat" position. He managed to get my horse decently on the bit but not going forward from his hindquarters. There wasn't any major problems, as I said in my first post. My horse has had very different types of training so I can't expect him to get on the ride 'Lancer' perfectly but I do expect him to be a balanced rider...He was riding the same on his own horse.

    I also have a small problem with their stable: their horse care is a little to laid back for me. In our weather(below -35 alot in the winter), I'd like to see all the horses that are ridden with blankets. I'd like to see better arena fencing(outside is only about 2 feet high), and more restricted diets for the horses. My horse is not high maintenance but a high maintenance horse would not fit in here. They don't really even accept high maintenance horses here(like athletic warmbloods in training). Right now that is not a problem for me but I might get a second horse in the future. I guess it doesn't matter for right now. Also, all their horses are barefoot, which I'm fine with, my horse is also barefoot. I've been out to my horse's pasture to catch him and some of the horses in there need shoes. Yet again I must say, my trainer has better horse care than his wife...his wife is the barn manager. She takes care of everything. They have some old horses and some really young horses that would benefit from supplements but they don't get any. If the training works out I'll still stay because they still are taking care of the horses.
         
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        03-05-2011, 08:21 PM
      #12
    Foal
    I can understand the barn frustration. I'm currently at a farm that is...a little less than perfect but as long as its safe conditions and your horse is getting the care you want him to get I wouldn't worry too much. You can't change the way people care for their horses but you should have control over your horses care
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        03-05-2011, 10:58 PM
      #13
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by rosie1    
    I can understand the barn frustration. I'm currently at a farm that is...a little less than perfect but as long as its safe conditions and your horse is getting the care you want him to get I wouldn't worry too much. You can't change the way people care for their horses but you should have control over your horses care
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    Yes, it's not too bad and they'll do a lot of stuff for my horse and they won't charge me for every little thing...which I like. I'm just going to see how it goes.

    I have questions for anyone who read my original post, or anyone reading this(it was in the original post).
    1)Do you think it is dangerous to lunge without a whip?
    2)Do you think you should lunge without slack in the lunge line?
    3)Do you think using sliding reins is bad?(in the way I told you I used them)


    Whoops...saw a double typo. I'm not 16, I'm 15. Doesn't really make a difference though . I don't know how I called myself 16 multiple times...? Guess I was typing little too fast. I had a lot to say.
         
        03-05-2011, 11:11 PM
      #14
    Green Broke
    I don't know about the other 2 questions but I don't always lunge my boy with a whip cause he can be more responsive without one. No one ever got up me for it.
         
        03-05-2011, 11:21 PM
      #15
    Yearling
    Give him a few more sessions, but honestly, that lady sounds like a whack job.
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        03-06-2011, 03:11 AM
      #16
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by SPhorsemanship    
    I'd like to see all the horses that are ridden with blankets. I'd like to see better arena fencing(outside is only about 2 feet high), and more restricted diets for the horses. They have some old horses and some really young horses that would benefit from supplements but they don't get any.
    Unless they are YOUR horses, it's absolutely none of your concern if the horse has a blanket. I have a 4yr old who doesn't get cold and it's routinely below zero here. If you go in the barn, all the other horses are blanketed and have extras hung up. There isn't one on my horse and the only thing on his bar is a flysheet. I would be absolutely furious if someone put a blanket on my horse because he'd start sweating. My horse, My concern, My decision.

    Unless the arena fence magically shortened itself in-between the time you visited the property and subsequently moved your horse there, you don't have a valid complaint. If you don't like the fencing a boarding facility offers, don't move your horse there!

    Restricted diets and supplements? Again, unless the horse belongs to you, you don't get an input! Same with shoes!

    I board my horse, they provide the care I choose and pay them to provide. I don't go running around examining their animals, I am not paying for their care, nor is it any of my concern. If I didn't occasionally care for everyone when my BO is out-of-town, I'd have no idea what they eat, same with what shoes, if any, are on their feet. I don't go meddling around in other people's business and I would not be at all happy if someone tried to meddle in mine.
         
        03-06-2011, 03:22 AM
      #17
    Banned
    High five Delf!
         
        03-06-2011, 06:08 AM
      #18
    Weanling
    Even though you are young, you seem to have studied a lot and gained a lot of knowledge about horses. If you can't find the right trainer for your horse, it might be better to train your horse yourself. You could even take lessons on another horse in the type of riding you prefer, then teach what you've learned to your horse in a way he will understand. I can understand having a difficult horse that others don't understand. I have one myself. I had to learn many new things in order to train her myself.
    It sounds like your horse is a reactive type of horse. *Most* trainers that I've come across don't deal well with this type of horse. In fact, there are just so many trainers that have a certain method of training that they use like a cookie cutter for every horse. They tend to not change things up, even though horses are very individualistic and no one method works for every horse. That's fine, as long as they only work with a certain type and temperament of horse.
    I have hot horses and often lunge them without a whip. They are very in tune to everything and I can make them go with my voice and body language. It's not dangerous to lunge without a whip unless you have a horse that does not respect you. And if a horse really doesn't respect you it won't do any good to have a whip - they'll run right over you anyway.
    With my sensitive horses I also like to have slack in the line. They go around with it loose, or even free lunge.
    As far as using the reins, I assume you are talking about side reins or draw reins. I have never used them to keep a horse straight so can't comment on that.
         
        03-06-2011, 12:18 PM
      #19
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Delfina    
    Unless they are YOUR horses, it's absolutely none of your concern if the horse has a blanket. I have a 4yr old who doesn't get cold and it's routinely below zero here. If you go in the barn, all the other horses are blanketed and have extras hung up. There isn't one on my horse and the only thing on his bar is a flysheet. I would be absolutely furious if someone put a blanket on my horse because he'd start sweating. My horse, My concern, My decision.

    Unless the arena fence magically shortened itself in-between the time you visited the property and subsequently moved your horse there, you don't have a valid complaint. If you don't like the fencing a boarding facility offers, don't move your horse there!

    Restricted diets and supplements? Again, unless the horse belongs to you, you don't get an input! Same with shoes!

    I board my horse, they provide the care I choose and pay them to provide. I don't go running around examining their animals, I am not paying for their care, nor is it any of my concern. If I didn't occasionally care for everyone when my BO is out-of-town, I'd have no idea what they eat, same with what shoes, if any, are on their feet. I don't go meddling around in other people's business and I would not be at all happy if someone tried to meddle in mine.
    You are totally correct. But if they take care of all their horses and their boarder's horses, then why would they take care of mine differently? I haven't had any major problems yet though so I shouldn't be complaining. BTW they also told us the arenas were fenced when we went to look at the barn but the arenas were farther and behind the indoor arena, it was -35 and the snow was 3ft high so we weren't going to go look around. It's still my fault anyways though
         
        03-06-2011, 01:05 PM
      #20
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SPhorsemanship    
    You are totally correct. But if they take care of all their horses and their boarder's horses, then why would they take care of mine differently?
    Because you are paying them to. I board with my trainer, her 4yr old is not currently being fed grain or any supplements but she feeds my 4yr old both because that is what I want. Different horse, different workloads, different needs.

    We just had a very high-needs horse arrive at the barn. She gets grain, supplements and hay 3x per day. She's practically wrapped in bubble wrap for turnout and has to be alone. I'm sure her board bill is higher than mine to correspond with the needs. I do not need to worry that I'll come out to the barn and find my horse standing alone in a turnout, bubble wrapped and gorging himself on extra meals.

    In a boarding situation, you get what you pay for. Read the contract very well and see what all is covered. If something *your* horse needs is not, inquire as to if you can pay to have that included. They will either say "yes, for $XX we'll be more than happy to do that" or "no, it's just not feasible for us to provide that service" and then you'll need to decide if your horse will go without, you'll come by and do/give it yourself, or it's something that you find vital so you need to move your horse to a place that is able to.
         

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