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        09-17-2012, 01:36 PM
      #11
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by Plains Drifter    
    If he's not bucking at a canter in the arena, and your sure it's not saddle fit, could you work him in the arena prior to a trail ride until he's tired. Then take him out on the trail and see how he does. Sometimes horses need to put on their thinking caps and nothing like a wet saddle pad to make them think. Just my .02 worth.
    The first time two time I took him on a trail I did this and it seemed to just fire him up more, and he still bucked, he's that horse that can be exhausted, but seems to pull huge reserves of energy out of nowhere.
         
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        09-17-2012, 02:17 PM
      #12
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Janna    
    Ride him through it or yank nose to hip and do hard circles when he goes to buck, then ask for canter and do it till you get the right answer (nice canter)
    Our Appy used to do a buck when going into a canter. What worked on him was to pull his head up and to the side to stop the buck. I made him back up and go in circles. Then I had him immediately go back to a canter. If he tried to buck again, I just repeat.
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        09-17-2012, 02:33 PM
      #13
    Weanling
    Yep, we do the nose to hip, kick kick kick kick and Grrrrrrroooowwwwlll! At them! Then ask for a canter right after, no stop, no walk, very little trot. If they try it again, you were not convincing enough that you ARE indeed a crazy person on their back!

    Don't loose your temper though. Threaten them with funny things and then remember to laugh when those little ears are pricked back at you in attention.
         
        09-17-2012, 02:46 PM
      #14
    Trained
    I used to have a pony that bucked. Not big bucks but I couldn't for the life of me ride him out (bear in mind I have ridden out HUGE heels-above-ears bucks, and that was BEFORE said pony).

    He would buck, I would whack him hard on the bum with a dressage whip. He would invariably buck again, so I would whack him again. Rinse and repeat until he stopped bucking and settled. Worked darn well with the brat.

    I've also dealt with another bucker, and what worked for HIM was the Monty Roberts buckstopper (should be detailed on his website). Brilliant piece of equipment which I still have in my tack shed waiting for the day I might need it again... and I very nearly went there. Before I got Magic I was looking at a STUNNING gelding who bucked something chronic, and seriously considering, because I knew I'd solved the same issue before with two different horses, and I was specifically looking for a project. The buckstopper is sitting in my tack shed in case I do need it for Magic, though I don't think I will. She rears, but I have yet to see her buck.
         
        09-17-2012, 05:30 PM
      #15
    Super Moderator
    First, He is doing this because he knows you will pull him up. Every time you pull him up it is like:
    HORSE - 1
    COWGIRL - 0

    When the score his 10 - 0 -- his favor -- he knows he can put in his bluff every time.

    Ideally, ride the stuffing out of him before you go out on the trail. DO NOT do this when he is fresh. Then, go out on the trail at a strong trot for about 2 miles, sit back and sit tight and ask for the canter. Push him on if it is at all possible.

    I use an 'over-check' to stop a horse from getting its head down. I run a nylon cord from my saddle horn, (double half hitch around the horn) through the top rings on a nylon halter and fasten each end to the bit. Just like a side-check on a driving bridle, it does not let a horse get its head down and allows the rider to safely put a lot more pressure on the horse to maintain forward impulsion. You can do this with a forward seat English saddle using the breastplate rings in front, but it is a lot more effective with a stock saddle as the horn is much higher and does a lot better job of keeping a horse's head up.
         
        09-17-2012, 05:34 PM
      #16
    Started
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    Originally Posted by Cherie    
    First, He is doing this because he knows you will pull him up. Every time you pull him up it is like:
    HORSE - 1
    COWGIRL - 0

    When the score his 10 - 0 -- his favor -- he knows he can put in his bluff every time.

    Ideally, ride the stuffing out of him before you go out on the trail. DO NOT do this when he is fresh. Then, go out on the trail at a strong trot for about 2 miles, sit back and sit tight and ask for the canter. Push him on if it is at all possible.
    This is what I was getting after. Thanks Cherie. If he is bucking after you've done this, then you haven't worked him long enough. Sometimes you'd be surprised how long you have to go to actually tucker out a horse. Most often, you'll be tired long before he's tired.
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        09-17-2012, 05:38 PM
      #17
    Super Moderator
    Yup. If you do this and then canter on a long ways, it will only take one or two long hard rides to get back in the drivers' seat.
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        09-17-2012, 07:42 PM
      #18
    Weanling
    Sounds good Cherie, I'll try to tucker him out then ride him hard through it.
    Thanks everyone :)
         

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