Is he fully broke????? - Page 3

       The Horse Forum > Training Horses > Horse Training

Is he fully broke?????

This is a discussion on Is he fully broke????? within the Horse Training forums, part of the Training Horses category

    Like Tree74Likes

    LinkBack Thread Tools
        11-09-2012, 08:41 PM
    I agree with others, I don't think much of your trainer given the information you've provided. Drugging an injured horse so you can continue to ride it is, IMHO, one of the most despicable things that a "trainer" can do.

    If the vet advised stall rest with a bit of turnout, then he certainly shouldn't be ridden at all until the injury/lameness is healed completely.

    You definitely need to find a new trainer that has some compassion and common sense when it comes to horses. Whether that requires you to move barns or not, I don't know, but you need to get away from her one way or the other.
    Sponsored Links
        11-09-2012, 09:05 PM
    If it is bute then horse probably has stomach ulcers starting by now , prolonged use of bute can kill, takehim off, get a different vet out to check for ulcers and possibly get ulcer meds
    ndistler likes this.
        11-09-2012, 09:35 PM
    Did your saddle come included with him? As a 3yo he'll be growing and changing shape constantly, so if that's the same saddle he was started with, it probably no longer fits him, whether due to weight change or muscle gain, whatever. That could be causing pain, hence the bucking.

    But as everone else has said, get out of there! The trainer, barn and vet all sound mad to me.
    ndistler likes this.
        11-10-2012, 07:11 AM
    The saddle I bought did not come with him. It was professionally saddle fitted to him. He was not on bute or any drugs when I bought him. We are using 3 to 4 cc of ace orally which is kind of hard for his stomach. It is supposed to calm him down, but I really don't like drugging him. Yes we might move barns if the vet says he is sound (which he is). My next problem is where??? I live in Charlotte, NC and I have looked at all of the barns in that area and I have no clue where to go.
        11-10-2012, 08:04 AM
    To me it sounds like your horse needs time off to mature, in a pasture, without drugs. I can understand why horses are drugged occasionally, but to drug them constantly... that's just wrong. I can't think of any sort of injury that would require that whilst still making the horse suitable for riding.

    My question is if you are sure that he wasn't drugged when you bought him, why is he suddenly requiring constant drugging. I would ask your vet exactly what is wrong with him, because if it requires constant drugging your horse is going to have no sort of life and you'd be better off having him put down. Especially when they claim that he is sound... a sound horse wouldn't need drugging for pain, so there obviously is something suspicious going on.

    Do you have another vet in your area that you can have check him out? Something dodgy is definitely going on. Did you buy the horse from your trainer? Because it sounds to me like they're trying to cover something. For now, I'd demand that they stop drugging your horse.
        11-10-2012, 08:59 AM
    Green Broke
    This thread has been an entertaining read.. and a distrurbing read as well.

    I did not want to hop on until I found out what the drug being used was (figured it was ACE). I now would like to know what his injury was.

    One thing I agree with everyone on, is you do not EVER get ON a drugged horse. Horses are not calmed well by drugs and can still be lightning fast. I had a filly (yearling TB.. daughter or Silver Stark, stakes winning son of Affirmed) that was a bit spooky due to being unhandled. I sold her and the new owner wanted Xrays.. and this was not a yearlying who was going to stand quietly for a full set. Vet gave her Rompun and she looked like a sleep walker.. until the plate rattled by her right hind hock. Like lightning she reacted with a kick that sent the plate flying.. all the while not moving and with her eyes half closed. NEVER trust a drugged horse and NEVER get on a drugged horse. They are 100% unpredictable and that calm look can lull you into a false sense that the horse is calm.

    Another thing that can happen with a horse that is drugged is that IF something does scare them or get them to react, the can go completely the OPPOSITE of calm and go bonkers. When an animalo that large goes bonkers it can hurt itself, you and anything around it. Just sayin'!

    So.. any horse trainer that would have you get on a drugged horse is a complete amateur or is a complete imbecile.. and YOU need to keep YOU safe.

    As to being broke.. the age of the horse alone speaks volumes. A three year old can be said to have been backed.. but broke? Probably not.

    In my illustrious horse career I did have a filly that was a serious bucker.. from day one. It was her answer for everything including her cinchi-ness. She was extremely talented and was the only horse I ever had that had perfect conformation.. and she was a palomino QH to boot (papers not available). Talk about bronc bucking..

    After connecting with real estate a couple of times with her, I backed off and just brought her along slower.

    Your 3 year old is not broke, never was broke. If you keep up with what you are doing the only one who is going to BE broke is YOU (and I am talking physically, not financially).
        11-10-2012, 09:05 AM
    Originally Posted by Elana    
    After connecting with real estate a couple of times with her...
    Just wanted to say that that is my new favourite line.
        11-10-2012, 09:24 AM
    His injury.for what I believe was a stone bruise in the left hoof front toe. Then he got a small swelling in the left inner ankle so the vet wanted another week off no ride just stall rest. The vet will be back wed to check him again. I can't move him to another barn til december because I will be out of.the country for thanksgiving. I will move barns earlier if the vet and trainer really make me mad.
    Posted via Mobile Device
    Elana likes this.
        11-10-2012, 09:57 AM
    Green Broke
    Rubyhorse, is that your pony in your Avatar? Do you have any photos of your pony? I will say that your willingness to stick to this and get him properly trained by a proper trainer is commendable. Just be careful to know when it is time to cut your losses if it comes to that and progress is not being made.

    Do take care of you. It is miserable to get hurt by a horse and get laid up.. because it hurts and you can't ride while you are getting better!
        11-10-2012, 10:05 AM
    The horse in the avatar is my 1st horse I have pics.of him under my barn. His joie de vivre british riding.pony
    Posted via Mobile Device

    Quick Reply
    Please help keep the Horse Forum enjoyable by reporting rude posts.

    Register Now

    In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

    Already have a Horse Forum account?
    Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

    New to the Horse Forum?
    Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.

    User Name:
    Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
    Confirm Password:
    Email Address
    Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
    Email Address:


    Human Verification

    In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.

    Old Thread Warning
    This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

    Thread Tools

    Similar Threads
    Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
    What is a Fully mounted saddle? SophieLee Horse Tack and Equipment 4 01-07-2010 07:22 PM

    All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:30 AM.

    Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
    Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
    Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0