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        11-09-2012, 09:41 PM
      #21
    Showing
    I agree with others, I don't think much of your trainer given the information you've provided. Drugging an injured horse so you can continue to ride it is, IMHO, one of the most despicable things that a "trainer" can do.

    If the vet advised stall rest with a bit of turnout, then he certainly shouldn't be ridden at all until the injury/lameness is healed completely.

    You definitely need to find a new trainer that has some compassion and common sense when it comes to horses. Whether that requires you to move barns or not, I don't know, but you need to get away from her one way or the other.
         
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        11-09-2012, 10:05 PM
      #22
    Foal
    If it is bute then horse probably has stomach ulcers starting by now , prolonged use of bute can kill, takehim off, get a different vet out to check for ulcers and possibly get ulcer meds
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        11-09-2012, 10:35 PM
      #23
    Weanling
    Did your saddle come included with him? As a 3yo he'll be growing and changing shape constantly, so if that's the same saddle he was started with, it probably no longer fits him, whether due to weight change or muscle gain, whatever. That could be causing pain, hence the bucking.

    But as everone else has said, get out of there! The trainer, barn and vet all sound mad to me.
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        11-10-2012, 08:11 AM
      #24
    Foal
    The saddle I bought did not come with him. It was professionally saddle fitted to him. He was not on bute or any drugs when I bought him. We are using 3 to 4 cc of ace orally which is kind of hard for his stomach. It is supposed to calm him down, but I really don't like drugging him. Yes we might move barns if the vet says he is sound (which he is). My next problem is where??? I live in Charlotte, NC and I have looked at all of the barns in that area and I have no clue where to go.
         
        11-10-2012, 09:04 AM
      #25
    Yearling
    To me it sounds like your horse needs time off to mature, in a pasture, without drugs. I can understand why horses are drugged occasionally, but to drug them constantly... that's just wrong. I can't think of any sort of injury that would require that whilst still making the horse suitable for riding.

    My question is if you are sure that he wasn't drugged when you bought him, why is he suddenly requiring constant drugging. I would ask your vet exactly what is wrong with him, because if it requires constant drugging your horse is going to have no sort of life and you'd be better off having him put down. Especially when they claim that he is sound... a sound horse wouldn't need drugging for pain, so there obviously is something suspicious going on.

    Do you have another vet in your area that you can have check him out? Something dodgy is definitely going on. Did you buy the horse from your trainer? Because it sounds to me like they're trying to cover something. For now, I'd demand that they stop drugging your horse.
         
        11-10-2012, 09:59 AM
      #26
    Green Broke
    This thread has been an entertaining read.. and a distrurbing read as well.

    I did not want to hop on until I found out what the drug being used was (figured it was ACE). I now would like to know what his injury was.

    One thing I agree with everyone on, is you do not EVER get ON a drugged horse. Horses are not calmed well by drugs and can still be lightning fast. I had a filly (yearling TB.. daughter or Silver Stark, stakes winning son of Affirmed) that was a bit spooky due to being unhandled. I sold her and the new owner wanted Xrays.. and this was not a yearlying who was going to stand quietly for a full set. Vet gave her Rompun and she looked like a sleep walker.. until the plate rattled by her right hind hock. Like lightning she reacted with a kick that sent the plate flying.. all the while not moving and with her eyes half closed. NEVER trust a drugged horse and NEVER get on a drugged horse. They are 100% unpredictable and that calm look can lull you into a false sense that the horse is calm.

    Another thing that can happen with a horse that is drugged is that IF something does scare them or get them to react, the can go completely the OPPOSITE of calm and go bonkers. When an animalo that large goes bonkers it can hurt itself, you and anything around it. Just sayin'!

    So.. any horse trainer that would have you get on a drugged horse is a complete amateur or is a complete imbecile.. and YOU need to keep YOU safe.

    As to being broke.. the age of the horse alone speaks volumes. A three year old can be said to have been backed.. but broke? Probably not.

    In my illustrious horse career I did have a filly that was a serious bucker.. from day one. It was her answer for everything including her cinchi-ness. She was extremely talented and was the only horse I ever had that had perfect conformation.. and she was a palomino QH to boot (papers not available). Talk about bronc bucking..

    After connecting with real estate a couple of times with her, I backed off and just brought her along slower.

    Your 3 year old is not broke, never was broke. If you keep up with what you are doing the only one who is going to BE broke is YOU (and I am talking physically, not financially).
         
        11-10-2012, 10:05 AM
      #27
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Elana    
    After connecting with real estate a couple of times with her...
    Just wanted to say that that is my new favourite line.
         
        11-10-2012, 10:24 AM
      #28
    Foal
    His injury.for what I believe was a stone bruise in the left hoof front toe. Then he got a small swelling in the left inner ankle so the vet wanted another week off no ride just stall rest. The vet will be back wed to check him again. I can't move him to another barn til december because I will be out of.the country for thanksgiving. I will move barns earlier if the vet and trainer really make me mad.
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        11-10-2012, 10:57 AM
      #29
    Green Broke
    Rubyhorse, is that your pony in your Avatar? Do you have any photos of your pony? I will say that your willingness to stick to this and get him properly trained by a proper trainer is commendable. Just be careful to know when it is time to cut your losses if it comes to that and progress is not being made.

    Do take care of you. It is miserable to get hurt by a horse and get laid up.. because it hurts and you can't ride while you are getting better!
         
        11-10-2012, 11:05 AM
      #30
    Foal
    The horse in the avatar is my 1st horse I have pics.of him under my barn. His name.is joie de vivre british riding.pony
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