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        11-25-2008, 06:47 AM
      #11
    Green Broke
    I didnt read the other post but I did some "research"

    How many wrinkles are in your horses lips when you put the bridle on?? The max is suppose to be 1-2

    Mine had 3 O.O!!! So the next time I go up Im lowering the bit!

    Sometimes even having NO wrinkles is good to they can learn to "carry" the bit rather then have it shoved up their mouth.

    Think about this you stretch there mouth when you put the bit on then you stretch it even more when you ask them to whoa... I imagine it gets painful.

    Just my $0.02 :)
         
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        11-25-2008, 08:03 AM
      #12
    Zab
    Yearling
    HAF - I never look at wrinkles.. I think Crow has 4 or 5.. >_> but if you look at a photo, the bit is pretty far down. I look at how the horse treats the bit (mine tries to put it up if t's too low, or his own lips are higher up than they have to because of the bit.. but then again he hasn't learnt to keep his mouth quiet anyway) but mostly I look for where the teeth are and how much I can fiddle around with the placement of the bit without coming too close to them.

    But a ot of people have the bit far too high.. we used to say 2 wrinkles but well.. that can mean anything.. xD I guess 1-2 is a good hint tho. :P
    Anyways... just felt like writing x)
         
        11-25-2008, 11:47 AM
      #13
    Green Broke
    Yea true but even im going to lower my bit a hole and see if that helps her at all because some horses react diff. Hmm Ill let you know how it works.
         
        11-25-2008, 09:06 PM
      #14
    Weanling
    Ugh. My gelding used to do the head tossing thing all the time. He still does it sometimes, when I'm not paying attention.

    What I figured out I was doing was clinging to his mouth...well, not actually clinging, but I had too much a hold. Maybe try giving your horse his head? Let him have some more of the rein... I was going to add something else, but I don't remember what it was... I'll put it up if I remember...
         
        11-25-2008, 09:48 PM
      #15
    Zab
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TwendeHaraka    
    Ugh. My gelding used to do the head tossing thing all the time. He still does it sometimes, when I'm not paying attention.

    What I figured out I was doing was clinging to his mouth...well, not actually clinging, but I had too much a hold. Maybe try giving your horse his head? Let him have some more of the rein... I was going to add something else, but I don't remember what it was... I'll put it up if I remember...
    A good idea, never hurts to try! But just do it before he starts throwing, or after he has stopped. Otherwise you just teach him tht if he throws, you'll release and then it'll be hard to work him..
         
        11-25-2008, 09:50 PM
      #16
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Zab    
    A good idea, never hurts to try! But just do it before he starts throwing, or after he has stopped. Otherwise you just teach him tht if he throws, you'll release and then it'll be hard to work him..
    Exactly. (:
         
        11-26-2008, 06:17 AM
      #17
    Weanling
    Some horses are more forgiving than others. I have discovered that how tight to hold the reins is a true art, and it varies from horse to horse. I ride with very light hands, always have, but I have one horse that was held so tight all the time, when you gave him the littlest bit of rein he rushed off with it. I had to literally retrain him to walk on a loose rein. But I did. But if you hold the reins too loose, you don't have adequate control, and the horse starts to do what they want rather than what you want. If you hold them too tight they can't engage thier neck and shoulders to do what you have asked, and they get mad and start fighting (cuz you are asking them to do something, but not letting them do it).

    It is a delicate balancing act.
         
        11-26-2008, 07:21 PM
      #18
    Foal
    Thank you so much everyone!
         
        11-27-2008, 01:32 AM
      #19
    Weanling
    Like everyone else has said, I would check his teeth, bit, bridle etc. first to make sure it's not a pain issue. If it turns out its just a behavioural issue, you could try the one-rein stop.
    When your horse chucks his head, pull one rein in to about your hip and let him circle till he stops. As soon as he does stops release the rein and go on. I've used this with my horse when he does the same thing, or when he won't listen to the bit, and he picks it up pretty quick.
         
        11-27-2008, 02:25 PM
      #20
    Foal
    Have you just started riding your horse more often? Some horses just get tired. I don't know if your making him round up but if you are and he's not used to it, it could be that he is just to tired to carry himself "properly" (back/neck muscels are tired)
    If not I'd also try loosening the reins a bit and ride FORWARD. Make him move so he/she forgetts about being a brat (if it's not caused by a to tight grip) if so just move him forward so he realises the reins aren't tight anymore.
    Good luck!
         

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