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Head up too high....how to correct?

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        08-07-2008, 07:16 PM
    I'm taking when you say "that" horse you mean the picture....
    If so, then how is he all strung out?

    I don't keep him at it, he just does it. Whenever I asked for a trot he would just go into his slow trot...but if I want a faster one I'd ask and he'd go into it.
    I'm not using my hands at all for balance...if I do start to loose my balance, I grab on to the handle that's on the bareback pad with my hand that is holding the excess splitreins

    I know I'm not bouncing at the trot when he goes into his slow trot (again without me asking) so what wouldn't be feeling right to him? Any ideas?
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        08-07-2008, 10:16 PM
    Long and low the horses nose should be almost to the ground
        08-07-2008, 11:25 PM
    Originally Posted by jeddah31
    long and low the horses nose should be almost to the ground
    no....you don't want a horses head that low..that's totally unnatural and not really good for them.
        08-08-2008, 08:07 AM
    Originally Posted by SonnyWimps
    Originally Posted by jeddah31
    long and low the horses nose should be almost to the ground
    no....you don't want a horses head that low..that's totally unnatural and not really good for them.
    the point of long and low is to stretch over their back and top line and step furthur underneath themselves. Horses stand all day in a paddock with there head down eating, whats un natural about that. Get on my horse, then get on sonny and tell me which one is stiffer. Honest to god
        08-08-2008, 11:36 AM
    Yes they are lowering their head down to eat NOT to walk/trot/canter while carrying a person. How many horses do you see cantering along in a pasture with their nose all the way down to the floor?

    And besides even if that is what you wanted you can't expect a horse to autimatically put their head down...just like for collection, you can't expect them to get it perfect or be able to keep it for very long. Yes I know you want the head down a little lower, but not to the ground

    Anyways, I watched a Fluidity DVD that I had from Parelli so I'll try their suggestions....sadly it didn't really say any hints for bareback, but I'll try what they did and see if that helped at all.
    I'm looking to see if they have a bareback DVD or something of the sorts that might help.

    Anyways I'll get pictures and such and maybe a video (depending on if there is anyone there to be a camera person). Also if the instructor is around I'll mention to her that I can't sit the trot bareback and get feedback from her and see what she thinks.
        08-08-2008, 12:10 PM
    Agreed Sonny that a horses nose shouldn't be on the ground! However, the horses pictured I don't think isn't doing a long and low. Generally when I picture it, I see a horse that is stretching outward (for lack of a better work). This type of exersize would be great for your horse to get the head level that you want. Here is a fairly good article about it. They do a better job than I could explain!
        08-08-2008, 12:12 PM
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    Try working on bringing your legs back, don't let your body tip forward though. Then do small circles and serpentines, do your pressure excersizes, make sure you release when he drops. I actually had to go back to 2 hands when I started that with blue because I didn't have myself completely in the right position, so when I worked on head and collection I did two hands (i still do with him - he's a little difficult in that departmetn, he doesnt have the right conformation so it's alot harder work for him...) - sonny is ok on the confirmation depratment so that isnt extra hard for him....
        08-08-2008, 12:14 PM
    That kinda helps but I'm confused on the "spounging" on what they mean and how to do it.
        08-08-2008, 12:29 PM
    It's not tugging on the horses mouth, it's kind of like just squeezing the reins. There is similar pressure to sqeezing a sponge... just a light feel. IDK it's hard for me to explain. Similar to doing half-halts if you're familiar with that.
        08-08-2008, 12:40 PM
    Kind alike half-halts but not a full one...just a really tiny half-halt
    ^^Kinda like that? Lol

    Farmpony, I know I do have the problem of slipping forward so that is why I got the bareback pad, thinking that would cause me to slip forward at least a tiny bit less. And it does help but I think once I find my balance point for the trot I'll be fine. I can stay on and balance fine it's just the bumping. I'll do circles and figure eights when I trot because when I'm turning at the trot and whatnot I stop bouncing even if he didn't slow down (weird, right?) I think it's because I'm telling him to turn with my legs so I'm more back in my balance spot, but when I go straight I stop sitting there.

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