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    05-29-2011, 03:02 PM
  #1
Foal
Headcollar trouble!

I bought Romeo last week... he is a 13months old currently standing at 14hh. He loves cuddles and comes to call and will stand there and be stroked over his body for ages but doesnt like his head being touched. I want to start tying him up and leading him (never been led or tied befor). I can get the noseband on fine but as soon as I try to put it over his ears he just rears up and backs off... after trying this several times today he eventualy had enough and wouldnt let me near him...

Just after any suggestions really?? Shall I just be patient and wait until he feels more comfortable with me touching his head area or shall I over power him?

He has a field safe headcollar on but that took me over half hour to get on and I had to put it round neck first then round his nose and is not suitable for leading/tying....
     
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    05-29-2011, 03:23 PM
  #2
Weanling
Don't even bother trying to overpower him - he will always win, and do you really want to begin your relationship like that? I would just spend ages petting him all over, gradually working up his neck, and retreating when he shows fear, so he understands you don't want to hurt him. When he's good lots and lots of praise, he'll soon get the idea :)
Hope this helps.
     
    05-29-2011, 08:48 PM
  #3
Trained
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Originally Posted by shelleyb    
I bought Romeo last week... he is a 13months old currently standing at 14hh. He loves cuddles and comes to call and will stand there and be stroked over his body for ages but doesnt like his head being touched. I want to start tying him up and leading him (never been led or tied befor). I can get the noseband on fine but as soon as I try to put it over his ears he just rears up and backs off... after trying this several times today he eventualy had enough and wouldnt let me near him...

Just after any suggestions really?? Shall I just be patient and wait until he feels more comfortable with me touching his head area or shall I over power him?

He has a field safe headcollar on but that took me over half hour to get on and I had to put it round neck first then round his nose and is not suitable for leading/tying....
Keep getting him used to you touching him first. All over, if you have a suitable place for doing this. Make the touching time a pleasant time for him.

When you are ready to try again with a halter / headcollar, start with a rope around his neck, and the halter over his nose only. Get a halter that you can unbuckle or unsnap the poll so that you don't have to drag the halter over his eyes and ears. With this kind, you can put the nose portion on, then the poll strap is lifted over his poll and attached. These halters are a bother to use regularly, but a great tool for headshy horses and training.
     
    05-29-2011, 10:25 PM
  #4
Super Moderator
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I would just spend ages petting him all over, gradually working up his neck, and retreating when he shows fear, so he understands you don't want to hurt him.
I'm afraid that you have the 'approach and retreat' training method all backwards.

You keep pursuing the horse and the untouchable area and only retreat when he relaxes and accepts you going to a certain area.

If you retreat when he objects, you are training him to throw a fit and object so that he can train you to back off.

I suggest you get a 5 foot stock whip and use it to 'pet' him with. Treat it like it is an extension of your arm and hand. Snap a lead on his safe-halter and use that to keep him from turning his butt to you and then get him accustomed to being petted and rubbed on his face, neck and poll.

Keep petting an area until he relaxes and then reward him with backing away and letting him think about it. Then go back and pet some more -- each time getting closer to his face, poll and muzzle - all touch-me-not areas on a green colt. Just never back away until he is accepting more than he did last time.
     
    05-30-2011, 05:09 AM
  #5
Foal
Thanks for the suggestions guys... I think I need to persist with him as I need him to be used to the headcollar by the end of the week really as he is in a field on his own... he was gelded last week so he is ready to be introduced to his herd at the end of the week. And obviously I need to be able to bring him in should I need to...

I just wasnt sure that if I keep trying with no success he will learn to just throw his head up!!
     
    05-30-2011, 05:12 AM
  #6
Foal
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Originally Posted by NorthernMama    
Get a halter that you can unbuckle or unsnap the poll so that you don't have to drag the halter over his eyes and ears. With this kind, you can put the nose portion on, then the poll strap is lifted over his poll and attached. These halters are a bother to use regularly, but a great tool for headshy horses and training.
Iv got one of these.... in unstraps at the poll and unclips under the chin :) He doesnt do anything naughty or nasty he's just unsure so as soon as I get to his ears he rears up and im only quite short so can't reach lol
     
    05-30-2011, 09:57 AM
  #7
Trained
Can you get a rope around his neck? If so, make a fast war bridle from a soft rope by taking the end of that rope, twisting it to make a loop and slip that over his nose. This will get him more used to the feel of something closer and closer to his poll without freaking him out so much.
     
    05-30-2011, 02:07 PM
  #8
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernMama    
Can you get a rope around his neck? If so, make a fast war bridle from a soft rope by taking the end of that rope, twisting it to make a loop and slip that over his nose. This will get him more used to the feel of something closer and closer to his poll without freaking him out so much.
that's a great idea :) not thought of that befor :) thanks xx a least that way I can lead him :)
     

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