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        07-12-2013, 12:15 AM
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    Foal
    help!

    My horse is 19. He is a retired rodeo horse, he used to be a bulldogger in the rodeo. I've had him since he was 14 and have been trying to train him to be a pleasure horse. Was that wrong? I thought it might be ya know considering the saying "you can't teach an old dog new tricks" but I just kept trying because that's what I was expected to do. And it's just not really working, I mean this year and last year were the two most serious years considering I'm still a teenager and I really didn't have a clue on how to train my horse until last year. Before that I kind of just walked, trotted, and loped around the arena. I don't really place that well at shows and I'm starting the think that all I'm doing I confusing my horse. I still want to show him I just don't know like in what shows. Like I considered doing barrel racing because he does know how to do that well he's just not fast. I mean he's faster than pleasure horses but slower than gamers. I still want to use him I just don't know what for! Please help! Any advice on what I should do? I'm still a young person so I have time!
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        07-12-2013, 12:17 AM
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    Trained
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    Originally Posted by natssurething    
    my horse is 19. He is a retired rodeo horse, he used to be a bulldogger in the rodeo. I've had him since he was 14 and have been trying to train him to be a pleasure horse. Was that wrong? I thought it might be ya know considering the saying "you can't teach an old dog new tricks" but I just kept trying because that's what I was expected to do. And it's just not really working, I mean this year and last year were the two most serious years considering I'm still a teenager and I really didn't have a clue on how to train my horse until last year. Before that I kind of just walked, trotted, and loped around the arena. I don't really place that well at shows and I'm starting the think that all I'm doing I confusing my horse. I still want to show him I just don't know like in what shows. Like I considered doing barrel racing because he does know how to do that well he's just not fast. I mean he's faster than pleasure horses but slower than gamers. I still want to use him I just don't know what for! Please help! Any advice on what I should do? I'm still a young person so I have time!
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    You and he both need a pro trainer to help you get the Pleasure basics down and then you can go on your own. There's a LOT more to being really good at Pleasure than just going slow.
         
        07-12-2013, 12:19 AM
      #3
    Foal
    And my training before consisted of trying to slow his trot and canter down which arnt insanely fast but are bouncy because of his long stride. He's a god horse and listens to me well I just think all this pleasure training isn't working and im just confusing him and taking steps backwards. I think if he gained some speed we could be pretty good at barrel racing. I don't really want to do the high school rodeo because you travel alot and I just don't have the time for traveling far away.
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        07-12-2013, 12:20 AM
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    I would find a barn and take some lessons to try and determine what you like to do best. Then get the assistance of a trainer to find out if your horse would be able to participate in that particular event.
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        07-12-2013, 10:21 AM
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    Foal
    If it was you, what event would you do?
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        07-12-2013, 10:44 AM
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    Started
    No way to tell without testing and evaluating the horse in person. Seeing his strengths and weaknesses, what he likes and hates, working through the problems... I agree with the others. Sometimes, you just cannot do it all by yourself. Training horses is not something you can learn from reading books or on a forum. They are great tools, but sometimes, you need a professional to show you.

    You both need a trainer.
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        07-12-2013, 10:48 AM
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    mls
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians    
    You and he both need a pro trainer to help you get the Pleasure basics down and then you can go on your own. There's a LOT more to being really good at Pleasure than just going slow.

    If the horse is not built for pleasure, the amount of training will not make him into a winning pleasure horse. Cow horse lines are bred and built like a brick sheet house. Very few can do the pitty pat trot or lope as if they are moving in place.

    OP - I would suggest to try team penning or sorting, ranch horse shows, etc. Speed isn't the issue there - accuracy is.

    Best wishes.
         
        07-12-2013, 11:06 PM
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    You are not going to make an old bull-dogging horse into a pleasure horse. He might make a breakaway roping horse, a cowboy mounted shooting horse, a team sorting horse, a drill team horse or a trail horse.

    If you want a show horse, you need to start with a show prospect. If you want to successfully show in pleasure, horsemanship, show trail, etc, you need a trainer / coach. It is so unrewarding to get the wrong prospect and try to go it alone when you are only wasting entry fees and time and money trying to compete against well-mounted and well-coached participants. Decide what YOU think would be fun and then get a decent prospect and some help becoming competitive at what you decide you like.
         
        07-16-2013, 05:59 PM
      #9
    Foal
    So should I even keep trying to pleasure train him or should I just stop now?
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