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    01-16-2008, 10:21 AM
Green Broke

I have a 5yr old QH gelding that im training for WP. For the life of me I cannot get him to slow down his lope, its way too fast. I can get him to slow down with draw reins holding him back but once I let him have his head he extends as much as he can and canters. I have been showing him english for the past 3 years. Just now we started working on western. He has the jog down perfect and he knows that Jog means slow down and trot means speed up. But he extends, I taught him to extend. I think that's his problem he has such a long stride that he can't slow down like the other horses can. I want to keep his extention, but I also want to slow him down for western. I have tried circles, stoping and going, heolding back and releasing, digging into him with my seat. I ride him with a O ring snaffel. Please if you have any suggestions let me know.
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    01-16-2008, 09:23 PM
Maby try using poles on the ground. Have them the appropritae distance for canter, sorry I don't know what it is. And take him over those. He'll have to slow down a bit to watch the poles and get his stridings right. So giving him the right commands you use for lope whicle going over them will help him assosiate the pace with the command.

Lol well that's one theory / idea.
    01-16-2008, 11:28 PM
My horse was like that in his early years. I'm just going to let you know, there's no simple method. The best thing to do would be to constantly, slowly improve him over time.

Other than that, I found holding his head very collected while loping to be helpful. It will force him back on his hind end if you're careful to keep him moving through the bit despite the heavy collection. Make sure you keep the drive on him though, otherwise he will drop his shoulders and slouch around. Just keep pushing him through the bit and maintain emphasis on his hind end. Release pressure when he begins to relax into an easy going lope. You should try to slow his cadence down without killing all of his extension. Once he is going nicely, hang your reins out and keep him moving with momentum. Always, always be lifting his shoulders. It sounds weird to other people, but a lazy horse will not lope well.

It's also good to do it in circles. Tighten as needed.

If anyone has any other advice, feel free. It's been a while since I had to slow a lope.
    01-17-2008, 11:08 AM
Green Broke
Well that's one of his problems. He is lazy, he'd much rather stand around and sleep then move.
    01-17-2008, 12:57 PM
I have a lazy pleasure horse too. The gray in the picture to the left. But even though she is lazy I had to work on her for like a year to get her to slow down her lope. You have probably already tried all of this but I'll tell you just in case you havent. I did a ton of small circles, basically as small as she could possibly do. I also used draw reins and got her really collected up. My sister always commented that she looked like a peacock, but I wasn't worried about her headset at the time. Eventually she realized that it is easier to just go slower than to have to be so collected. One thing I didn't do was slam stops because that just got her reiled up and she wanted to go faster. Now that I got her going slower she drops her head down and does a real nice lope. Oh, she also is a big horse and can not go as slow as some of those other ones, but I don't think that really matters. As long as the horse does a true lope and none of that 4 beat trot lope unatural ugly stuff they don't have to go as slow as the other ones.
One time I was at a show and there was a horse doing the ugliest 4-beat I haev ever seen. The judge asked the class to pick up and move with forward motion, but she didnt. So after the class the judge actually went up to her and said "your horse moves like crape" I thought it was hilarious
    01-18-2008, 11:21 PM
One thing to try is to lope at an angle, with hip towards the center and head by the wall. They can't speed this way. Then once they get the idea straighten back out.
    01-21-2008, 10:29 PM
Tara, maybe you should try a harsher bit. Like a Tom Thumb or something.
    01-21-2008, 11:28 PM
I wouldnt use a harsher bit, that might just cause more problems.
    01-22-2008, 11:10 AM
Green Broke
Usually I try to slow him down with my seat. Im not going to do the angle thing i'v seen horses try to work down off that and I don't like how they move or respond at all. Right now im trying to work him off my seat.
    01-26-2008, 02:55 PM
Originally Posted by quixotesoxs
One thing to try is to lope at an angle, with hip towards the center and head by the wall. They can't speed this way. Then once they get the idea straighten back out.
Dont do this if you plan to show. Makes for a horrible habbit of facing the rail. Judges definitely look of this.

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