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    08-14-2008, 10:27 PM
Green Broke
HELP! asap!

Well you probably all saw the video of chance cantering around the rim of the round pen not invading my space what so ever! She gave me all the respect I ever wanted/needed! But today I decided to free lunge her over some jump and she turns into me and skins me with her fur! If I crack the whip [not hitting her] she strikes out with her back feet or gallops at the fence and is about to jump it!!

On our last ride she turned and tried to bite my leg I gave her a kick in the mouth and smacked her she acted up some after wards but we corrected that quickly!

Im quiting riding her for a while and working on free lunging again and just work on ground work! I've lost my respect ever since I started riding everyday.. even leading now she keeps walking into me when I stop!!

What should I do to get my respect back..

If I decide to not ride we will work on lungeing on line and free lungeing .. on both she cuts in. How should I fix this and quick cause I want to ride :P

I think the only riding ill be doing is walking till I get the respect I need

PLEASE help!
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    08-14-2008, 10:34 PM
Here's what I'd do to gain the horse's respect. Be all business for a month or two. Control the horse's head with either a leadrope or a pair of reins at all times. No lunging for awhile, and especially no free lunging at all.

Catch the horse. Tie the horse. Groom, tack up. Ride the horse. Tie the horse, untack, groom. Put the horse away. If you want some bonding time with the horse, do more grooming, or handgraze the horse on a leadrope. The key is this--always control the horse's head for awhile with a leadrope or reins whenever you are with the horse.

Do that for a month or two--all business, this is your job horse--and I think you'll have an easier time of it.

A great dvd to try is called Leadline Leadership by Julie Goodnight--you can order it at
    08-14-2008, 10:53 PM
Green Broke
Well I don't want her to look at me as all work.. I try and give her days off.
How is this going to help her respect me space.. keep in mind she's also only 5

Just curious.... who thinks just doing all work for a month or so will help??
    08-14-2008, 11:01 PM
She can have days off, I didn't mean ride her every day. But she's a horse, she outweighs you by about 10 to 1. She's got a job to do--carrying you, doing your bidding. Let her know you expect her to do that job and nothing else for awhile, and she'll learn to respect you.

As for respecting your space--check out that Julie Goodnight dvd. I would never, ever free lunge a horse that didn't respect me ALREADY--that's a great way to get hurt. Free lunging is for working with a horse with whom you already have a rapport.
    08-14-2008, 11:08 PM
Green Broke
Hm maybe ur right ill keep that in mind.

I use to have respect to free lunge her and she would stay WAY out of my space. But ever since I stoped for a while she hasnt really respected me to much.
    08-14-2008, 11:14 PM
Staying out of your space in a round pen because you've got a lunge whip isn't really respect. Leading her around, having her keep her head in front of her chest, never walking ahead of you, stopping when you stop, slowing and speeding up when you do--that's respect!

The reason I recommend the Julie Goodnight dvd is because even though she has dvds about lunging, roundpenning, and the rest--unlike any other trainer, she has just this ONE dvd about working on a leadline with no other material--$40 for one dvd that's really clear and useful, instead of hundreds of dollars for 3 or 4 dvd set like the rest have. (And she has her expesive SETS, too). If you can, get ahold of Leadline Leadership--I absolutely guarentee you won't regret it.
    08-14-2008, 11:20 PM
Green Broke
I didnt have a lunge whip I had a lead rope in my hand and usually even when I did have a lunge whip she will invaded my space.

So when I lead her I shouldnt let her graze or go behind or a head of me??
    08-14-2008, 11:22 PM
Correct--don't let her go behind or ahead of you. Make her walk beside you with her head at your shoulder.

If you want her to graze on the lead, walk up to some grass, stop, pat her on the shoulder, and say "O.K.--eat." Make that your signal--otherwise she's to keep her head up and her eyes and ears focused on you.
    08-14-2008, 11:29 PM
If she goes behind you, shake the lead, cluck, get her to catch up. If she goes ahead of you, say "whoa," stop her, then make her back up--"back, back, back" for a few steps. Do that EVERY time she passes you--let her know it's unacceptable.

Ask her to back calmly and quietly and firmly at first--"back" and push back on the rope. Don't make her back to China--two or three steps will do. If she ignores you and just stares, ask more loudly. If she still stand there--jump up in the air, wave you hands over your head, and shout "hey! Back!" Don't hit her--just startle her. If you startle her, and she backs up just one step, praise her--rub her forehead and say good girl. Within a training session or two, you'll have her backing up out of your space.

If she comes sideways into your space and knocks into you--smack her shoulder and say "hey"! Never, ever let her rub her head on you. After a workout, you rub the sweatmarks off her face with your hand or a brush--but don't let her rub on you.
    08-14-2008, 11:50 PM
Green Broke
She will back away is I wiggle the rope very slightly so we got that down.

But ill try some of this and see what happens

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