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post #21 of 42 Old 05-21-2010, 09:38 PM
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Does your horse have problems direct reining? Like does he brace his neck? If so then I'd say a full cheek gives that little extra push (on one side of his face to be exact) to let him know he needs to turn.

Otherwise I personally like the looks of Eggbutt and D-rings.
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His steering is off and tends to need alot of pressure to get himself to actually turn and then when he does he doesn't straighten right out and keeps his neck bent but again I am doing alot of ground driving with him and after 30mins or so of big circles, little circles and figure 8s he gets the hang of it and straightens out, then when I ride he seems more responsive and quiet. But he is very good with just the halter when turning so I was thinking the pressure from the opposite side would help reinforce which way I wanted him to go and how tight of a circle I wanted. But then again with the ground training maybe I wouldn't need a fullcheek.
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post #23 of 42 Old 05-21-2010, 09:51 PM
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When my mare is shown, it is with a low port swivel shank bit. She is very responsive to it, drops her head, whoas on her hind end, gives to the bit and neck reans, changes leads, etc.
But for every day riding, loping in circles and basic training,I use an o ring because she does like to get heavy on her right lead and its easier to bring her nose in and get her to bend with the normal snaffle.
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post #25 of 42 Old 05-21-2010, 11:04 PM
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Don't mean to hijack, but all this talk of not direct reining in a curb... what of the Kimberwick? o_O

I do agree on the amazing-ness of a french link though. It's what I'm starting Gracie in. =]
I don't like them either ;)
They're basically a really really short shank bit.


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I love me a full cheek french link, especially for a horse that needs a bit of lateral pressure to help with turning. They can be used with or without bit keepers (they keep the bit at the correct angle, but are not absolutely required) -- my only warning is to watch the horse closely while they have this bit in, as the long arms can get caught on things.


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post #27 of 42 Old 05-21-2010, 11:22 PM
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I don't like them either ;)
They're basically a really really short shank bit.
Aww! But my horse does so well in it! Of course, I have a kind enough hand to not abuse the power, lol. Just checking though, seeing as it is basically a curb without shanks meant for english, therefore meant for direct reining. o_O Haha.

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I'm going to post agoin what I always say in these threads. The answer to your problem is between your horses ears not between his teeth. If you are applying pressure and then releasing before you get what you want then you are training him to ignore you. If you put pressure on the bit and he throws his head and you release it then you are training him to throw his head. The bit YOU need to change is the bit between your ears. Get some help from a good horseman and learn to ride your horse correctly and the problems you are having will go away.

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Kevin- like i said in my last posts, I dont Have a good horseman other than people on here or the Amish and I am VERY uncomfortable with the Amish for several reasons. The amish come and pick up my horse poop and nothing more. Some are okay to talk to with small talk but I would never be alone with an Amish man. Most of this I am learning on my own. Once every 3 months or so I have a trainer who comes to visit her family and she comes to see how I'm doing. She comes out, gives pointers then is gone. I feel in the rest of the time.

When Glyder throws his head I do not release pressure except for when he is in mid shake of the head, then I reapply the pressure. He does not get away with anything with me and I am very persistent with him.

JustDressageit- I think I will be purchasing that bit when I come home from work :)
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I like the tom thumb bit but........... it is NOT a training/correctional bit. It works beautifully on a horse trained to neck rein & with gentle/reasonable hands. Your horse should pick up cues from your hands, legs/feet & voice & I would call these primary cues. After you get your horse going well, it may take only one of these by itself to turn the hours. like a simple "right" "left" "whoa or stop". I personally like the India bosal & I have never seen another rider use one here in Oklahoma but I don't have a big circle but I don't think they are all that common. Hope you don't have a problem with Native's too, but throwing it out there. I would work him in the round pen with the verbal until he has it down. And I mean work. I'd stay with the snaffle for awhile & use the Indian bosel. Once he has all the verbal & subtle signs/signals down & lots of hours of near perfect neck reining, I would then suggest your tom thumb is a nice bit.
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