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        01-16-2013, 02:44 PM
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    Peppy, this is an Amish method. This is how the Amish break their horses from spooking. It requires two heavy, strong, and experienced men to accomplish this. Where I am from, everyone sends their horses to the Amish to be broke. I can account that they produce very well trained horses, if you find a reputable Amish trainer. Of course just because the trainer is Amish, doesn't mean the horse will be well trained. I've seen people get their horse back missing one eye, but this can happen with any fly by night trainer. I trained my horse to lay down by tying one leg up and pulling the reins backwards into a bow, then nudge him over on his side, then I sit on him and pet his ears and rub his face. I would never recommend someone to be brutal in these methods. Always remember, the soft hand makes the soft horse.
         
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        01-16-2013, 03:25 PM
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    Exactly I was just saying that way of making a horse lay down is a bit rough they lay down method you used is safer but if done wrong can also be dangerous. Just pointing out laying down has to be done very carefully. We have Amish and Mennonite communities here in Oklahoma as well and I'm sure they have to do desensitizing as the Amish community uses horse and buggy and those horses need to be on highways noises and car so I can understand desensitizing in that situation I just didn't want people reading this to think about laying down without being very careful is all
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        01-16-2013, 04:02 PM
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    I never let my horses investigate things, as soon as you do this you are rewarding them ignoring you. You are teaching it to stop and look at things. I want my horses to ignore or go past things without stopping. When you allow them to look at things you are teaching them to be afraid of, or look for things that are new or different. When they start to investigate there mind is taken off of you as a rider. I need my horses to be looking for me at all times. When he starts to look at these things you are essentially telling him ignore me, you know better take your time. I want my horses to believe that I know better, I am the leader and I know where we are headed, they then look to me for directions.
    Not necessarily. I only let Aires investigate things that I ask him to and NEVER when I'm in the saddle. If he spooks at something when I'm in the saddle, I'll dismount and ask him to investigate it. He knows not to investigate things unless I'm on the ground. If he tries to investigate without being asked or with me in the saddle, I make him move his feet to get his attention back on me. In two years of doing things this way, I haven't had one problem with him trying to do anything like what you're saying.
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        01-16-2013, 06:52 PM
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    Exactly I was just saying that way of making a horse lay down is a bit rough they lay down method you used is safer but if done wrong can also be dangerous. Just pointing out laying down has to be done very carefully. We have Amish and Mennonite communities here in Oklahoma as well and I'm sure they have to do desensitizing as the Amish community uses horse and buggy and those horses need to be on highways noises and car so I can understand desensitizing in that situation I just didn't want people reading this to think about laying down without being very careful is all
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    Yes you are exactly right! I didn't even consider that someone might take that as more than just interesting information! Yes, it's a very dangerous method for both horse and human!
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