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post #1 of 21 Old 07-13-2012, 03:30 AM Thread Starter
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Help ! Horse hates being touched.

My horse titan , doesnt like being handeled. ( brushing, getting touched , anything of that category ) but when we ride he is fine and doesnt seem to mind when im on his back . For example , I cannot go in his stall and touch him , he will kick the stall door and try and bite. When I brush him same thing . What can I do to make him more touchy feely friendly ? Excersises , praises , tips ANYTHING ? I want to be able to go in his stall and pat him without him getting mad.
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post #2 of 21 Old 07-13-2012, 05:35 AM
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Make sure every time you do get to pet him it's a good experience.
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post #3 of 21 Old 07-13-2012, 05:37 AM
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You should coax him into it instead of going straight up to him. Offer him treats and slowly get closer as he takes them. Don't go straight for the face, aim for scratching the neck or withers. Also some exercises to build trust is lunge him on a lunge line and before you switch sides or finish, make him come to you. You can do this by lightly pulling on the line to make him come, then make him follow you. Once you have this down, try free lunging. This is no lunge line. Make him come to you. Don't give up until he does and don't give in and go to him. It is frustrating and may take up to an hour or more but don't GIVE UP once you start. It will pay off I promise, I had to do this with an abused horse at the stable where I train. And when you do get to pet him give him treats as a reward for letting you. Hope this helped

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Sounds like you got no respect from him.

If you have a round pen, I'd put him there. If not I'd have a good size area for him to move.
Walk up to pet him, like normal.,he offers to kick, make him work.
Send him away, get the feet moving for a min. Then ask him to stop, pet again. I'd repeat till he stands.

He tries to bite, he would get popped on the nose and chased away. (get feet moving) then asked to stop, and I'd pet him.

I'd do this to he stands.

Don't worry about being his friend and him liking you.
Be the leader.
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post #5 of 21 Old 07-13-2012, 06:13 AM
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You should coax him into it instead of going straight up to him. Offer him treats and slowly get closer as he takes them. Don't go straight for the face, aim for scratching the neck or withers. Also some exercises to build trust is lunge him on a lunge line and before you switch sides or finish, make him come to you. You can do this by lightly pulling on the line to make him come, then make him follow you. Once you have this down, try free lunging. This is no lunge line. Make him come to you. Don't give up until he does and don't give in and go to him. It is frustrating and may take up to an hour or more but don't GIVE UP once you start. It will pay off I promise, I had to do this with an abused horse at the stable where I train. And when you do get to pet him give him treats as a reward for letting you. Hope this helped
Again I don't agree.

Janna is more on the right track but even so just be careful about doing this on your own OP. Have your trainer/parents/etc. watch you as you work with him, offering you advice because horses can get very upfront and feel trapped in a round pen.. especially with someone they don't seem to have any respect for :/

Please be careful..
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Again I don't agree.

Janna is more on the right track but even so just be careful about doing this on your own OP. Have your trainer/parents/etc. watch you as you work with him, offering you advice because horses can get very upfront and feel trapped in a round pen.. especially with someone they don't seem to have any respect for :/

Please be careful..
Well I don't know the experience level of OP, so does come into play. He/she may need a more experienced persons help. But, my advice is just what I'd do..
Being petted would be the easier thing for the horse, than having to work.
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So everytime you go to touch him he lashes out?

This may seem mean, but he's teaching you that he can push you around and get you to leave him alone.

So what should you do? You should put pressure on him. Make him move his feet, teach him it's not okay to kick or bite. When he stops biting, stop petting him. Then try it again until there is no reaction from him.

If he tries to get you in his stall, that's a sign that he truly doesn't respect or trust you and thinks he's in charge.

Again I would really work with a trainer on this.. you can get into a lot of trouble if you don't correct them the right way :/

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Well Janna it is very good advice for someone that knows how to handle horses :) She is new to this though (I know this because of her other thread) so for her personally it may or may not be the right thing.
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First & foremost OP, keep your safety in mind. I'd advise you work with a good trainer with him for now, so they can evaluate what's going on & show you what to do.

This horse may be purely telling you where to get off, or he may be in pain, which is why he's so reactive. So I'd also want to rule out/treat physical probs before treating it as a training exercise.

I'm more in line with Redbear's first couple of sentences. That is, I find it very effective to use 'clicker training' principles to turn screaming Mimis into well mannered, willing ***** cats, I find 'approach & retreat' a very effective 'tool' at desensitising horses to stuff without confrontation too. However, if you're not practiced with this sort of approach, again, I'd find an instructor to teach you first, because this is not the sort of horse to experiment on & inadvertently reinforce the Wrong behaviour. It sounds like this horse also needs a firm approach, but considering your safety, I don't think trying to force him into stuff, especially loose, is a good idea.
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Agree with Loosie except again with the treat thing. I love clicker training, and it definitely helps some horses but like all other training, the person doing it needs to be an effective teacher not just handing out treats and becoming the "nice lady with the cookies" because even so that doesn't create a respectful relationship on its own. It's the training behind it that does.

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Agree with Loosie except again with the treat thing.
No except there, as I said I agree that OP doesn't do this unless she's already experienced
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