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    06-03-2013, 09:01 PM
Exclamation Help, horse needs a job!

Not sure if this is the best place for this, but here it goes.

There's a gelding at my barn, who is in desperate need of a job. He's very buddy sour. He was recently mixed into a larger field, along with his buddy. He's very nasty to the mares and has way too much energy to be sitting around.

I was asked and have permission to work with this horse. He's a real sweetie, but he gets so worked up that he forgets EVERYTHING.

I had him out and was lunging him, he can't even walk. He just haul asses around and keeps getting closer and closer to me. I've tried using a lunge whip and he just doesn't care. I've tried multiple types of ground work, but he's just too unfocused.

Any ideas? At this point I'm not worried about riding, or even lunging. Just getting his respect and attention.
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    06-03-2013, 10:08 PM
Horses don't forget a thing, they just figure people out. A more definitive description other than "hauling ass around" might give us a better clue as to what he is doing and what you are doing. "I've tried using a lunge whip". In what manner?
    06-03-2013, 10:15 PM
I'll ask him to walk, point the direction I want and say "walk on", he'll go a little bit, then start prancing, and them he just keeps going faster and faster.

I used a lunge whip near the end because he wouldn't respect my space, regardless of my body language. I don't move when I lunge, I stand in one spot. I would hold the lung whip at my side, never raising it until he would come too close, which he would do after he would ignore my command to move away. I never hit him with it, just let him see it. He didn't seem to care much. I never used it to get him going or anything like that.

While he's going around, he's calling out and looking this way and that. It's very hard to get him to stop.
I wad thinking about free lunging because he's too energetic, and then working on the line. But I feel like he might get himself too riled up and hurt himself.
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    06-03-2013, 10:23 PM
After a few recent threads, I hate to even tread into this territory, but I will. I'm really good lookin so I can just smile and everything will be ok! ;)

I'm shooting from the hip and going to say a JOB isn't what he needs as much as training and learning manners.

I have a horse that needs a job or he gets bored and zesty. But he always has his manners and remembers his training.

I'm not sure the prior life of this gelding, are you? Was he broke to ride? If so was it extensively ridden?

Why was he a pasture pet so long? Injury or too rank to ride?

I'm sure you see the question could go on, so please, tell the story of this boy. It may give a clue to where you're at with him now.
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    06-03-2013, 10:34 PM
Yes. I've known him for almost 10 years. We uses him as a lesson horse and commercial trail horse.
He was on his owner's property with a mare, Buttercup. In April, their pasture caught fire. The trees were used as posts, and they burned. The two horses were brought to my barn (they used to board.with us) sadly, Buttercup, passed away. She had blood clots throughout her body and on went to her lungs. Very sad.
This gelding, Joe, had been with that mare for a long time. They had never been integrated into one of our fields, so we put him with another gelding. He's super attached to this guy now. Very buddy sour, worse than he was with. Buttercup.
Not sure how long it's been since he was worked well, but I'm sure it's been a while. I remember him as a very well behaved boy, sturdy and calm.

He's fine to be groomed, stands fine, but when we go into the ring he goes crazy.

It is an.indoor, so maybe it's because he can't see all the horses?
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    06-03-2013, 11:59 PM
There's a few ways to handle, what sounds like buddy sour, lack of a higher leader.

Could leave him all alone (well with you there watching) in the arena a few hours a day with a few flakes of hay.
Could take baby steps, hand walking away from his buddy a lil further each day.
Could use a thinking tree, and leave him tied till he settles. Then cut him back to his buddy once he realizes he's not going to die.
Or could try riding with his buddy, or even lounging with his buddy, till you can slowly seperate them.
Is just a few and the raw versions.

I take buddy sour by horse, some will flip out!, others just stop.
I also feel that buddy sour is the biggest pain in the ass to fix!
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    06-04-2013, 12:10 AM
Yeah. I don't want his coming back into work to be stressful. I was thinking about just taking him out of his field and hand walking him around, just all over the place and practicing some ground work, for a few days, and then maybe try lunging with another horse in the ring.

The only worry there is if he were to get out of control. He's not super tall, but he's a tank.
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    06-04-2013, 12:23 AM
I had this problem recently, and I tied the buddy horse near the arena. Every day, the buddy was tied a little farther away. The sour horse eventually realized that I would always reunite them, and finally calmed down.
    06-04-2013, 12:27 AM
I honestly think that's probly the best choice for you.
To do in hand work and get him focused on you.

But remember, everytime you handle him, you teach him something. And that could be good or bad, be mindfull of how he should act and be sure to follow that to a T.
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    06-04-2013, 11:46 AM
Thanks all(: I'll most likely be working with him on Friday. First day out of school, yay!
I'll tell you how it goes(:
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