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    06-29-2011, 09:55 PM
  #21
Weanling
Re to colts picking up on our hormones.. LMFAO!
Mares and women don't have the same kind of hormones that attract stallions.

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I think he reared because I was holding him back from trying to race off.
I can grantee he reared because he's trying to put the wool over your eyes, colts can be extremely testy and a lot of people will tell you NOT to let your guard down, regardless! Once he can feel and sense that you're nervous they can try everything under the sun to scare you and now that you've put him back without resolving the problem he had you're back to square one, he has it over you!

The fact that the trainer could lead him calmly down the lane way with no bit does make me wonder if you're a little 'off put' handling him?

If he where being handled by me and he reared i'd be sending him back 10x's as fast as he went up that first time he reared! No way would I let a colt test me the way he tested you, I understand if you don't have experience with handling colts (especially when they test). :)

I own my own colt (rising 2) and he has to behave respectfully and calmy even when in company of mares and other horses!





     
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    06-29-2011, 11:33 PM
  #22
Green Broke
Yes I do realise he got it over me and I am not happy with myself for it. Normally I would definitely put a horse in its place. I will also admit he did knock my confidence because I was having a hard time with him. I did make sure he stood still quietly and walked calmly beside me before I put him in the paddock. I was just not prepared to potentially get quite hurt, possibly lose the horse (so he went on the road or something) when no one was around. Prior to my volunteer work here I have had no experience with colts and until recently I have only had to handle the quiet ones.
     
    06-29-2011, 11:50 PM
  #23
Weanling
When I worked at a barn (a racing operation), we had a few very rank stud colts. Being Standardbred, most were fairly docile, but there were a few that really made me question WHY I even liked horses.

One horse, Chase, was especially bad. As a yearling, he was already showing off for the fillies. Because he was a fantastically bred and conformed colt, the owner refused to geld him. Whenever I took him out of his stall, I used a stud chain over his nose. If he started acting studdish, I gave the chain a quick, light jerk. It made more noise than anything. He usually calmed down. If not, I would stop whatever I was doing and start walking him in circles. The more he misbehaved, the smaller the circles became. To really keep him focused, sometimes I'd angle him through a circle backwards. Eventually, I was the only female in the barn that could handle him without risk of an explosion.

On the contrary, we had a lovely stud named Jack. Now this was the stud that dreams are made of. Not only was he beautiful, but he was a gentleman too. No matter what time of year it was, the mares never bothered him. He might flick his ears at them and drop the manhood, but he never, ever acted out. He would follow calmly (sans chain), with his muzzle resting on my shoulder. He wasn't pushy, rude, obnoxious... whoever did his training was absolutely amazing. He could be turned out with colts or geldings without risk of a fight and he never reacted to the mares who might be turned out in different paddocks at the same time. For the longest time, I thought my boss was lying to me when he told me Jack was a stud.
     
    06-30-2011, 12:09 AM
  #24
Yearling
Anebel's post made me remember that I did use a small crop/whip when the stallions were still pretty green about leading. A quick bop on the nose (Contrary to popular belief, this has not made ANY young horse I've worked with head shy. Appropriate discipline and reward made sense to a horse.)was perfect for getting their attention back when they zoned me out. Or a whapwhap on the chest when they didn't listen to the quieter aid for backing up/not running me over.
     
    06-30-2011, 12:30 AM
  #25
Weanling
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Originally Posted by IslandWave    
Anebel's post made me remember that I did use a small crop/whip when the stallions were still pretty green about leading. A quick bop on the nose (Contrary to popular belief, this has not made ANY young horse I've worked with head shy. Appropriate discipline and reward made sense to a horse.)was perfect for getting their attention back when they zoned me out. Or a whapwhap on the chest when they didn't listen to the quieter aid for backing up/not running me over.
You do this to my horse and I'd do it to you and see how you'd like it, regardless of the situation you don't need to do this, Been there done that!

Having actually own more then 1 colt/stallion (1 was a rescue, 1 was my mums but he's gelded now) I have learnt better ways of going about things.

By all means, smack and tap away as said in another post, not my problem
     
    06-30-2011, 09:51 PM
  #26
Yearling
^ By no means did I imply that I would ever do that to your horse, JustAwesome and I am sorry that you took it that way. I did not mean it in that way at all. As you have mentioned earlier, you've already put in a good foundation on your colt and I'm sure any horseperson could lead him with just a halter and rope without needing to do any type of correction because of his solid training. (I wish more people would do that with their horses, whether it is a stallion, mare, or gelding!)

But if I do barge into your space and try to rear up/kill you, please feel free to hit me in the head as I'll have probably gone mad! (Just joking around. I know that text can be so hard to interpret correctly.)

I so handle at least 3 stallions daily. I know that is not much compared to many others here, but I am just explaining what has worked for them and what I have learned working with them. They have various training, one is a Grand Prix stallion, one is green broke, and the other is schooling 1st Level and is qualifyed for regionals with me. When I first started working with the two younger ones, they were only just halter broke.
I know that this is a very narrow view of handling stallions as a whole, but I do hope that by sharing my opinion with the OP along with other members here will give her a good feel of how to be appropriate and safe when dealing with a slightly unruly young stallion.

Oh and just to clarify, once the stallion is respectful of you, you'll no longer need to carry the crop with you. It's an aid that can be weaned off. ;) Which is nice since it can be annoying to have to carry it all the time. Or that just might be me since I'd forget to grab it half the time.
     

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