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        02-28-2007, 05:00 PM
      #11
    Foal
    bad day

    Mokinho,

    Today has to be the worst day since about 3 years ago with that horse! Oh my goodness!

    Ok well see I always go down to the barn after school now, and I walk him around and then feed him, his hay and corn along with the other horse in the pasture with him, but today was different.

    I went down got the lead rope on the halter and he was good walking away from the barn but then he was terrible on the way back. He seemed "prancy" he just wouldn't sit still and he tried to bite! I wapped him in the nose, but then I got scared and climbed over the gate!

    I walked up to the house thinking what could have went wrong? He was doing good yesterday! So I went down to check the surroundings. MY DAD HAD ALREADY THROWN THEM HAY! So do you think that he was acting up because he knew the other horse was eating the hay and he couldn't? Also it started hailing about two minutes after I had climbed the fence! And now its thundering! Goodness snowy, haily thunder grrr this annoys me.

    But do you think that it was the weather? And the hay? I don't think I did anything wrong until I climbed over the fence to get out of there. Pleaz give me your advice on this! Thanx
         
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        02-28-2007, 09:31 PM
      #12
    Foal
    The hay

    It was the hay

    It sounds as though you too need to work everyday with that as well. He is very motivated by the food.

    Have you ever taken him away from his food before it was gone?
         
        03-01-2007, 04:23 PM
      #13
    Foal
    I just read your post and it seems as if you have some serious behavioral issues.

    1. As far as the biting goes, be careful with swatting on the nose. Younger horses, just like children, always want to play and test the limits. This horse is testing your limits and testing your authority. You might want to try acknowledging the biting by rubbing his mouth, his gums, his lips, nose and even grabbing a hold of his tongue. I don't mean jerk it around, just a squeeze. What this does is de-sensitize him. He tries to bite when he wants something, when he wants to establish a pecking order with you. By rubbing him all over, he will get tired of the attention (since he is really not asking for it in the first place), and it will teach him that the more he bites, the more you will touch and love him. Understand? I know it sounds crazy, but you might want to try.

    2. As far as the running you into things goes, he doesn't respect your legs or your aides. Try this: Work with him on the ground by applying pressure to his sides with your finger or the end of a hoof pick. The point is to get him to move away from the pressure and not into it. Apply enough so that it causes a little bit of discomfort, enough to make him want to move away from it. Keep practicing and he will carry that over to your leg pressure.
         
        03-01-2007, 05:42 PM
      #14
    Foal
    Mokinho,
    I didn't even see the hay! It was foolish of me! but i'm going to try to go down in a little while and i'll tell you if it went better. Is there any way to help that? Or will it always be food is his weakness!?
         
        03-01-2007, 05:58 PM
      #15
    Foal
    It could very well have been the weather also. Animals are very in tune with the changing weather patterns. They will sense a change long before we see/hear it coming.

    I check the weather daily so I know what is suppose to be heading our way. Not only for the horse, but for my poultry. They sense it too.

    Another thing to think about is that horses can see/smell/hear things that we cannot. Sometimes they get spooked from something that we never see or hear, wayyyyyy off in the distance.
         
        03-01-2007, 08:36 PM
      #16
    Foal
    horse behaviour

    Horses are motivated by four things,

    Food
    Hay
    Reproduction - driven by nature
    Safety

    Not necessarily in that order.

    They learn from repeated actions

    Horses live in the weather and if you don't make an issue of it they won't either.

    I lived in the high desert for years and we had wind 99.9 percent of the time and thunderstorms with lighting zapping from sky to ground. I would take my horse out in it all the time and she never had issues with it. When I moved to northern California I was boarding my horse and another boarder had asked me with a confused and shocked look if I was going to ride today. Winds were about 15 to 20 miles an hour. I said absolutely. This person said I was crazy. Maybe so, but I don't let rain, wind, thunderstorms stop me and my horse from enjoying life. The most beautiful time to ride is right after a fresh rain in my opinion. I've never ridden in snow, but I don't know that I would ride in a hail storm. Even horses will seek shelter from hail.

    You have a long road to haul! This is not only a learning process for you're horse, but one for you too. As time moves on you will have learned many lessons and your horse will tooo.

    One of the young horses I just purchased has an issue where she would swing her head at me and try and bite while I approached her when she's eating. She's getting better, but it will be awhile before she gets it in her brain that I'm the alpha. So every now and then when she doesn't expect it I go in take her halter in hand (when she swings her head I wack her one in the shoulder) and we go for a walk around the barn and back to the food. However, she has her own stall at night unlike your horse. The other young one I purchased tried that only one time. I took a hold of her halter (while I was telling her quit - I had to grab the halter quickly for I knew she was going to tell me to BACK-OFF) so I get the halter we walk away from the hay and the turned to face the hay. We stood there for a short period of time. I waited for her to say OK I want my food and when she made that first forceful move I pulled back on the halter and told her NO! And told her to stand (I don't think she knows what the word stand means) but I'm teaching her. When she settled down before she could make the move of I WANT MY FOOD I walked her to the hay and reached down with my hands and fluffed it up and she kept eating, but watched me. She learned the first time around. However, my other mare who is still learning the food game is taking longer. So it all depends on you being persistent with the same commands and actions and it depends on your horse as far as when he will decide to accept what you are teaching.

    Now my 28 year old when she was 4 1/2, she was eating her dinner I was in the stall patting her on the girth, which no doubt pissed her off! I wasn't expecting it, but she turned around a bit me in the hip. I was all of 98 pounds at the time and she left nice pretty color bruise on my hip about 2 inches in diameter. I was shocked, but I knew I had to do something to get the point across that this is not acceptable, so I bit her back in the neck and scrambled from her stall. Aaaaaaaaaaaa mouth full of dirt, but I got the point across. She was so stunned that I bit her back she stopped eating and just stared at me Then when she got over her shock which lasted several seconds she went back to eating. She's gone now, and I do miss her, but I am so grateful that she and I became one. That was just one of many lessons I taught her and she taught me. Oh by the way she never once bit me after that incident which our time together was for 27 years.

    PS an 8 or 9 year old in the horse world is considered a teenager, but they can be mentally immature (or what I would called not taught to interact with humans) horses will act like horses because that is who they are.
         

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