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    05-08-2012, 03:18 PM
  #11
Foal
I have often used the "bump bump" method with my friends horse who does that. She gets way to fast and bouncy and I pull and release on the reins very lightly. In english that cue is used to bring their head down for certain horses and as soon as the horses head goes down with the bump bump method she slows down because she realizes she might trip if she pulls against me. Also be sure that you're not expecting for something to go wrong or for her to go to fact. I mean expect it with your head but not with your body. If you keep your body expecting it sometimes you may not even realize it but you'll cue her to go faster. Just stay very relaxed and remember to breathe. The more relaxed you are the more relaxed the horse is.
     
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    05-08-2012, 03:28 PM
  #12
Foal
Looks like you got a lot of good information Spirit, so go ahead and digest it. :)
I've been reading it too and comparing to my own seat, and being the hardcore Dressage gal I am, I still prefer to align myself with classical principles which state "You should hardly work the horses mouth at all" infact the only mouth work I do is flexion, and that's usually after I have asked with my leg and seat both "nicely" (a squeeze and siting heavier) and "strongly" (giving them a kick and becoming more animated in my posting trot.) But I like to control the horse with my body, and use no "backwards motion." But that's the wonderful thing about Horse Forum, you're going to get a lot of great examples of how many different people ride their horses. But I agree with what an earlier poster said, that a lot of these principles will "click" easier once you're working with a trainer. :)
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    05-08-2012, 06:38 PM
  #13
Green Broke
I don't know if anyone said this but I would have a more knowledgable horse person watch you and make sure you aren't giving him conflicting signals. Your body or legs might be saying "go" and your pulling back is giving the "whoa" message. This is going to lead to frustration on both of your parts!! Make sure your both on the same page.

Really concentrate on slowing that posting down, make him match YOUR speed not the other way around. I know some other people have said that but it is really a useful tool. Also, circles are your best friend. To get my mare to jog we worked in small circles, no more then 10 meters. If she got slower I spiral out, if she gets quicker spiral in. I really sat down on her and pushed more weight into my stirrups, made sure I slowed down my hips and most of all I told her "slowwwwww" aka "take it down a notch".
     
    05-15-2012, 03:30 PM
  #14
Yearling
Yes. Certainly a lot to digest!!!!!!!!
     
    05-15-2012, 03:40 PM
  #15
Showing
The most important thing is to listen to your horse and help him get to where you want.

Being very clear about your cues, even exaggerating them (big release for when he listens is a good one) at first is better than forcing them into anything.

Have fun with this trainer for a month!! Ask lots of questions, write it all down, reflect later

:O)
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    05-15-2012, 07:41 PM
  #16
Foal
I personally had the pleasure of working with Buck Brannaman on this very issue and I'll share what he told me. I was riding with a group of riders and my horse refused to walk and would only jig. The more I pulled on the reins the worse she got. He told me to one rein stop her until she could be controlled at the pace I chose. Everytime she insisted on that trotting, I was to pull her head to my knee. He said, quote, "I don't care if you have to ride her that way all day, you do it until its easier for her to do the right thing." And I'll be darned if it didn't work! It took all day and half of the next, but she got it. He was a brilliant teacher. I spent 4 days riding with him and it changed how I ride forever and I use his principles daily.
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    05-16-2012, 10:16 PM
  #17
Foal
Others have talked about the seat (and that's really where most cues should start) and slowing the post is a great idea to slow the pace, but this is often tough for a novice to process and apply. What I see most in horses deemed run-offs or hard-mouthed are riders who pull on the reins. If you pull equally on both reins in a way that's painful to the horse, he's naturally going to learn to brace against your hands and in many cases, pick up the pace. Half halts work if you understand the concept, but you might want to also try alternating rein pressure a bit between hands to get his attention without locking on his jaw. Often less is more with horses who aren't responding to the bit. A softer hand and lighter bit can do wonders for a horse who has been taught to 'run into the bit' (usually in an effort to escape pain).
     
    05-17-2012, 12:31 PM
  #18
Yearling
She is what the trainer said...soft in the mouth. If someone were watching me they would not be able to visual see the pressure to the bit applied. I'm doing something wrong or she has never been taught so I'm going to have to assume both when solving this issue. She has been a pasture ornament over the last 3 years. He said he never had a saddle on her. He said he just wanted a pretty horse in his yard!
     
    05-17-2012, 10:44 PM
  #19
Showing
She's probably just not balanced yet :) Horses like this tend to go really really fast until they gain the muscle and strength to slow down but still keep a lot of impulsion.

She'll get there, and I doubt you're impeding her!
     

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