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    07-25-2012, 03:30 PM
Exclamation Help my gelding with bucking

My horse and I have always had a relationship that turns heads! Liberty, galloping to the fence to see me, and so much trust. Up until 1 month ago I could honestly say he never once bucked with me on him... I feel like a failure. Tacoma and I do many things together, but we mainly enjoy trail riding and pleasure riding. I have always used a treeless western saddle on him with a bitless or a soft snaffle, but I would like to be able to take him to small fun shows :)... So I invested in a Wintec 2000 all purpose english saddle because of there amazing reviews. I do not have the money or enough interest in going really big with english so I went synthetic. The saddle is not sitting on his withers, nor his spine and seems to fit ok in my eyes. I have a riser between the saddle and his back as well as a saddle pad. He was absolutely fine with it when I rode in it for the first time at a small show, but all of a sudden he has gotten this habit of bucking whenever he goes into a canter! I HATE it! He has also been very lazy when riding and wants to literally just stand around doing nothing as soon as I climb on his back. So, I have started using my split reins to gently tap his butt to get his feet moving... So he bucked more. He has not only stopped and not wanted to walk in my english saddle, but also as soon as spring arrived also gotten alot lazier on the trails. Stopping in the middle of the road, not wanting to move so as soon as I use my split rein he flicks his tail and gives attitude before walking on. I am so despriate to have a pleasurable riding horse again it is almost not funny! Where has my boy gone!?! What have I done!?! How do I fix this!?!? I just want him to eagerly move his feet without attitude and to do easy transitions into the canter without bucking. I do not need a fancy horse, or anything like that! I simply want things to go back to the way they were! Does this mean I won't be able to start him over tiny jumps? Or not being able to ride english? Do I need to forget about small fun shows? If I had to pick, trails and pleasure come first. But I still love having ribbons on my wall that we have won together. PLEASE HELP!!!
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    07-25-2012, 03:39 PM
Taco, to me it sounds like either a bad fit (whether it's OK in your eyes or not) or you bouncing on canter transition slamming his back (which probably is more noticeable for the horse when in english saddle). What happens if you switch to the saddle you used before or ride him bareback?

Also pics of the horse with saddle would help to tell if it fits or clearly doesn't.
    07-25-2012, 03:58 PM
I agree that it sounds like a bad fit. Does he ride the same way with his old saddle? Your best bet is to have an expert look at him, though.
    07-25-2012, 04:03 PM
I have to agree that it sounds like a bad fit. Put that treeless saddle back on him and see how it goes. You might have to get a treeless English saddle for him.
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    07-25-2012, 04:13 PM
I agree with the other posters - this screams of poor saddle fit.

Did you do a tracing or anything before purchasing the saddle?

And if the saddle does not fit correctly - can you return or exchange it?
    07-25-2012, 06:02 PM
This makes me think saddle fit, even if you go back to the old saddle or bareback, once a horse associates a saddle with pain they may still buck or be reluctant at first until they realize that the saddle won't hurt them. I don't think it will help to go back to the old saddle just once or twice because even if it is fitting there may still be pain in some spots caused by the other saddle that will still be tender for some time or he may just associate riding with pain now. I would have a saddle fitter or somebody with more experience to come out and have a look at his saddle and then when you know you have a saddle that isn't hurting him just work him through it.
    07-25-2012, 07:03 PM
Thanks so much! I am not using that saddle anymore. I had the barn manager look at it and she says the saddle fits, but there is alot that could be poking into him. Since it is a wintec I was able to personalize the gullets to ensure absolute fit... I am going to go back to using my treeless and am going to sell this one. If I ever decide I would like another english, I will find a treeless one :)
    07-25-2012, 09:35 PM
My question is why the riser pad? That can change the fit of the saddle from one that fits to one that doesn't.
    07-26-2012, 08:09 AM
Originally Posted by Tacomily    
Since it is a wintec I was able to personalize the gullets to ensure absolute fit...
Changeable gullets do NOT ensure the correct fit. It's much more to the fit then just width. Doesn't matter what gullet I use Wintec will NOT fit either of my mares, because the curve of the Wintec is different from their back curve. Also BO is not an expert unless she does it professionally, and with english saddle fit it's always the safest to go with the expert.

Hopefully the problem will go away when you switch back to old saddle. Good luck!
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