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        12-21-2008, 01:25 AM
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    Weanling
    Question Help with picking up hooves?

    My mare had a nasty stone bruise on her front right hoof, however it seems to be getting better. BUT she has gotten progressively worse over the past week with picking up her feet. When I ask her to lift each hoof up she gets cranky and tries to pull it away from me basically until she rips it out of my hands. I'm not sure how to deal with this, any ideas?
         
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        12-21-2008, 02:32 AM
      #2
    Weanling
    My mare does this too. I usually run my hand right down from her shoulder before pressing on her fetlock and bumping her at the same time. I don't bump her too hard, just enough to get her slightly off balance so she has no choice but to lift her leg. Then just keep holding it and if she tries to jerk it away say "no" firmly and hold tight til she stills.
         
        12-21-2008, 10:47 AM
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    Originally Posted by SallyRC123    
    My mare had a nasty stone bruise on her front right hoof, however it seems to be getting better. BUT she has gotten progressively worse over the past week with picking up her feet. When I ask her to lift each hoof up she gets cranky and tries to pull it away from me basically until she rips it out of my hands. I'm not sure how to deal with this, any ideas?
    Don't let her win. You get to choose when you let go of her feet. It's essential that you remain boss. I guess I'd pick feet up more than usual but for shorter time periods. I'd gradually lengthen the time. If she gets another bruise I would make sure I keep picking up her feet regularly. Do you squeeze chestnuts to ask her to lift her feet?
         
        12-21-2008, 12:37 PM
      #4
    Green Broke
    I agree with the above...as mean as it seems, my mare and I played this game when I first got her, except she would act like she was going to FALL if I didn't give it back to her!!! I felt so bad that I would, and then it was always her winning...well one day the barn manager told me to just keep a firm hold on and it let her fall if she tries anything...and she did!! She was okay and I felt terrible but by taking a stand, she stopped doing it and respects me now enough to hold it up and has stopped acting like she's going to fall!

    It's hard when they try to jerk it away...she still does it with her front right one from time to time, but I always just remember to keep a tighter grip on that one so that she can't take it back! TAKE CHARGE, show her who's boss, and she'll stop doing it eventually Good luck!
         
        12-21-2008, 12:41 PM
      #5
    Foal
    My horse did the same thing after injuring himself and having to be poked and prodded on a regular basis. Basically they are sore and sorry for themselves but since you are the one picking up her foot and vetting it she has decided that hurts so to solve this pickle I'm just not going to let her pick my feet up hehe clever but not so wise on their behalf
    Make sure you spend plenty of time reassuring her that picking your feet up doesn't hurt, be very confident when you are asking her to pick it up and also if she tries to snatch it back hold on if you can, but the whole time talking to her in a soothing voice and making it apparent that nothing back is going to happen if you do pick it up and let me do what I need to do.
    When handling her, make sure you pick up her feet regularly ie for me out regular grooming schedule just about every step was followed by guess what picking up his feet, work on desensitizing her legs somewhat do this by running a whip or a stick down her leg. Lightly but not too lightly that is just like a fly if she kicks leave it there and just remain as calm as possible. Basically the end result of this is you should be able to rub this whip all over her back, legs etc without her moving. This will help with her being touchy as well. Well a bit waffly but I am bad at explaining things so feel free to pm me if you have any questions and good luck.
         
        12-21-2008, 01:20 PM
      #6
    Foal
    I agree with all the above. I also find that if you pull the foot out and brace it against your leg, it makes it much harder for your horse to remove their foot. Just watch out that you don't get stepped on! I use my thigh, which is much stronger than my hands.
         
        12-22-2008, 03:50 AM
      #7
    Weanling
    Thanks alot guys, I'm so scared about being kicked as it has happened before with other horses and having a horse-shoe-shaped bruise on your butt is not a great feeling! I guess ill just have to man up and be the boss. And yes a girl I work with explained to me about the chestnut thing - her vet showed her! Its a great little trick and works everytime.
         
        12-22-2008, 06:12 AM
      #8
    Green Broke
    Something we found worked very well, especially with younger ones that had a sore foot or sprain was to do something that made them feel better, like soaking their foot, or messaging their legs with liniment. After only a couple times, they become very good 'patients', stood still while checking for swelling, applying ice packs, etc. even when they were obviously sore. I think it put the "he's here to make it feel better, not hurt me" idea in their head, and it carries over to regular trimming, etc. I suppose another demonstration of fostering trust.
         
        12-22-2008, 12:53 PM
      #9
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SallyRC123    
    My mare had a nasty stone bruise on her front right hoof, however it seems to be getting better. BUT she has gotten progressively worse over the past week with picking up her feet. When I ask her to lift each hoof up she gets cranky and tries to pull it away from me basically until she rips it out of my hands. I'm not sure how to deal with this, any ideas?
    Once I've ruled out an abcess or bruise out then it's a matter to get to quit pushing you around. My guy is a year and a half old and he's great with his feet but his baby nature comes up every once in a while and he randomly decides he wants his foot back. Tell her "No" and take it back. You can actually rest their foot (front or back) on the front of your thigh which will prevent them from taking it back if they chose to do so. If she were to have a balance issue, you would see it and then its your own discretion what you do from there but at least you don't let her push you around.
         
        12-27-2008, 07:16 PM
      #10
    Foal
    K, Im new to horse training/ownership/slavery, so take this with a grain of salt....

    I love this forum, and have gotten alot of advice. Many people have given me the same "make sure you're the boss" advice as well. I concur as well.

    About 3 months ago I got a foal and a yearling - neither had been worked with or handled much (if at all for the foal).
    The foal would NOT let me pick his feet up,he'd pull away,kick, be a little bast....well, you know. I followed the same advice - be the boss. Hold on (easier said then done!) and be persistant.

    When I started with him, he'd pull. So I'd hold on. That led to the "tripod" running away, and me on the ground. Then, he'd get his butt (not litteraly) tied to the thinking pole and we'd start over. Then he figured on kicking/swatting. It didn't take long to figure out the right places to stand and the wrong places to stand (There are more wrong then right places, BTW!!) After he learned that running, pulling and kicking doesn't work, he gave in. Every day I would do this. Once he'd let me hold his foot and not be naughty...I'd treat him (horse treat, rubbing his neck, lots of praise, or a combination). Within a week I could pick his feet up without the aid of the "thinking pole". He'd lean and push and wobble, but you could hold his foot. I kept working with him - even though the results were more then satisfactory already.

    Today, you can walk up to him, hold your pinky out about 6" below where a girth would go and say "Jake, gimmie your tootsie." and he will pick up the correct front foot and place it on(or atleast darn near) your pinky, and let you hold it - well, at least his fronts. The backs you still have to touch the front of his 'ankle' (??) and apply a small amount of pressure...up up and away!

    So far, I have 2 more trained to do this, and working on the third.

    Now...learn from my mistakes. The only thing I would do differently.....DONT CALL IT A TOOTSIE! Everybody gives me chit about that!

    Seriously though, All of that isn't neccessary, BUT it did come down to "be the boss." Persistance is a must. Apple slices help a bit too.
         

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