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        06-18-2014, 10:01 PM
    Help..Pony that will roll with the rider on back

    My daughters pony will roll on its back with her in the far my daughter has been able to jump off.

    She has done it twice in the last 6 weeks since we have had her. My daughter rides her 4 to 5 times a week.

    Am I tightening up the saddle to tight maybe? Or is the pony just got a bad attitude after riding awhile.

    Other than that she is sweet natured, clam, don't bite or kick and will come to my daughter in the field (only my daughter).

    The pony is 42", my daughter is 52 pounds and 8 years old.

    I thought next time the pony got down to roll, I would jump in the saddle while she was down and see how she likes getting up with 150 pounds on her back instead of 52. But I'm a little afraid I might break her back, what do you think, should I sit on her?

    Sorry one of the picture is on its side. I wanted you to get an idea of how big the pony is incase in need to sit on her.
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        06-18-2014, 10:07 PM
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    No, at 46" tall I don't advise that you get on the pony at all, much less while it is trying to get up.

    Its a little unorthadox, but when a pony tried rolling with me, the second time she tried it, I knew it was just her being a pain in the butt, so I took a crop and whacked her under the belly the moment she started trying to go down. She got up as fast as she could and didn't try it again. You might get a better suggestion than that though- I'm not sure I'd want my 8 year old to try it on her pony.
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        06-18-2014, 10:39 PM
    I don't have a lot of experience with this problem but I did have a pony try to do this once with me. When I felt her going to lay down I gave her a good kick and yelled a sharp command like "Hup!" Your daughter could try this. Of course if she needs to jump off, safety first.
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        06-18-2014, 10:46 PM
    Yeah, the biggest problem is that I can get on the pony myself. My trainer is 5 weeks away from having her baby and can't help right know and didn't have any suggestion about the rolling, except she would wear her out for it. So, I told my daughter she couldn't ride her until we fix the problem. My trainer is 105 pounds pre-pregnancy weight and should be that weight again very soon. Hopefully that should be a safe weight for the pony for short amounts of time.

    I don't know what else to do, I don't know of any small experienced riders to help with the problem.

    My daughter loves her pony so much and would never give her up. But I don't want any danger to come to my daughter either.
        06-18-2014, 10:48 PM
    Yes, wildatheart, I just want to get my daughter off as quick as possible when it happens. But it sounds like a good plan if I could do it. Thank you
        06-18-2014, 11:01 PM
    I've seen this happen several times with horses that are just so itchy they want to scratch or so sweaty they want to dry off. They always went down slowly enough for the rider to get off.

    However, this is not acceptable behavior as it could be dangerous. The pony cannot lie down to roll if it is moving forward. If this has happened twice, your daughter should be able to feel if the pony is getting ready to do it again. Tell her that, when she feels this, she should make her horse walk forward.
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        06-19-2014, 12:04 AM
    Green Broke
    She's a PRETTY thing, and your daughter looks so cute on her!!

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        06-19-2014, 12:24 AM
    Well, for one thing, PUT A BRIDLE on the darn horse if she is going to ride it. If the pony drops her head past her withers, your daughter needs to tug it back up and drive that pony forward. For another, get her some decent riding boots with a heel. This is a safety thing--just as much as a helmet. Next, teach her to listen to her horse's body. It's obvious when a horse is going down. I second carrying a crop, but I'd hesitate recommending its use until you know what the pony's response will be. A little buck might not upset your daughter, but if she blows up, that could get ugly. The point is that rolling can't happen if the horse is being driven forward with purpose. If the pony is ambling around the pasture without much direction from her rider, she isn't likely to think she HAS to be upright. Your daughter is going to need to be more aggressive.
        06-19-2014, 12:28 AM
    If the horse is being ridden forward, the horse cannot go down.
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        06-19-2014, 12:51 AM
    Thank you Nancy!

    Skiaformorgan, yes I will get a bridle on her this weekend. The one we currently have has a rubber bit that I think is a little to big. Ridding boots are coming soon now that you mentioned it, she does need some.

    Thanks for giving straight forward advise in a nice way.

    Love everyones advise.

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