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  • How to start side passing
  • How to train a young horse to sidepass

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    01-19-2012, 03:21 PM
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rob
Weanling
I agree,do you show in trail classes?and if so,when a pattern asks for a sidepass,you don't tell the judge,oh wait,let me get to the fence.
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    01-19-2012, 03:30 PM
  #22
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As with some others, I always start side passing when going forwards - normally on corners or spiralling out of a little circle. If they get tense or tangled, I just walk forward again.

*Gradually ask for more side movement than forward movement. "Close the front door" by pulling back slightly on your reins. Use your left leg to nudge slightly behind the girth and pull your right rein up and across the withers. Hold you left rein steady, with a little contact to prevent your horse from overbending to the right.*

This I disagree with - you need to OPEN your leading rein to give that shoulder somwhere to move into. Bringing that rein up and across the either is asking for something closer to a half pass. Especially on a young horse, a big open rein makes it much clearer what you are asking.
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    01-19-2012, 03:38 PM
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rob
Weanling
Using too much right rein with left leg is asking him to got off pressure in 2 different directions.
     
    01-19-2012, 04:44 PM
  #24
Weanling
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Originally Posted by rob    
i agree,do you show in trail classes?and if so,when a pattern asks for a sidepass,you don't tell the judge,oh wait,let me get to the fence.
I don't do trail class and I am mainly just teaching him the basics because he was not listening to my right leg pressure, so my trainer suggested I teach him to side pass to the left using right leg pressure that way once he starts responding to that he will be more responsive to my right leg que and when i'm asking him to canter on the right lead!
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    01-20-2012, 10:43 PM
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I also have never used a fence in front of a horse. I used to show trail horses, but that was not why I wanted better control of the movement and the position of the horse.

I probably used my horses' ability to position themselves more for handling gates and moving into position to handle young horses from the saddle on a broke horse than for anything else. I just was always very particular about how a horse moved laterally and how a horse moved its shoulders.

I want a horse to ALWAYS cross his front foot across in front of the other front foot as he yields over. You can only teach this correctness if the horse is moving forward as he moves over. Then, when you start using less 'forward' and more 'over', the habit is set to always cross over correctly.

I am also very picky about straightness. I want as little reverse bend as possible. I don't want a horse's nose pointing to the leg he is yielding from if at all possible. This comes from my desire to control a horse's hips and from wanting them to eventually learn how to do a correct half pass and flying changes on a straight line.

So, if you stuck with all of this, the bottom line is that if you start with 'leg yielding' exercises and get them done with as little reverse bend as possible, you are setting your horse up to do a correct side-pass the very first time you ask for one.
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