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        03-03-2013, 01:48 AM
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    I wish a few of you were closer. I would pay you to help. I just read all responses. Thank you all off to try to sleep. Good night
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        03-03-2013, 03:07 AM
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    Green Broke
    Honestly, I think this horse has learned it doesn't have to do what it doesn't want to do.

    I'd blindfold horse, run rope through window and get it in. Or drug it with better drugs.

    If you had two strong men to join wrists and get her under butt and lift her in while someone held tension on rope that might work.

    But by now? I'd have torn that rear end up for her. HCTJM is what is needed here.
         
        03-03-2013, 08:19 AM
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    Green Broke
    I will be outta here most of today. Will be interested to see where this goes.

    You are in NEBRASKA. There MUST be cattle haulers around who would take this horse in a stock trailer. For money of course.
         
        03-03-2013, 08:46 AM
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    Get a few strong people with an ounce of horse sense and a rope behind the arse will work wonders. She will kick, throw a strop, has a hissy fit, but will eventually give in. Sometimes playing nice is not going to work and you just need to get on with things.

    We also previously had a horse who was lovely at everything bar loading. We were under pressure to get to a schooling race so we got a round bale of straw and rolled it up behind her so that she couldn't come back. She kicked the heck out of the bale, but it pushed her the whole way in and nobody was injured in the process.
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        03-03-2013, 08:59 AM
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    I have rompun to use now. Last night I made a trail of food going in to the trailer to see if she would follow. Well then the vet sent a text that I could come get the drugs at 10:15. When I got back most of the grain was gone and she had knocked her water over. The water was way way up front. So I rhink she got in then the water spilling spooked her and got back out. I'm going to wait ti I have extra hands and then give the rompun and may have to physically lift her in. But she will get in today.
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        03-03-2013, 09:03 AM
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    Originally Posted by Elana    
    I will be outta here most of today. Will be interested to see where this goes.

    You are in NEBRASKA. There MUST be cattle haulers around who would take this horse in a stock trailer. For money of course.
    All the cattle haulers I know are in the road some place .


    I have to say the buyer she is so sweet she knows every detail a out what's going on and is so ready to bring her there and help finish her training.

    I couldn't have found a better home. A closer one maybe but not better
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        03-03-2013, 09:05 AM
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    Honestly, I think this horse has learned it doesn't have to do what it doesn't want to do.

    I'd blindfold horse, run rope through window and get it in. Or drug it with better drugs.

    If you had two strong men to join wrists and get her under butt and lift her in while someone held tension on rope that might work.

    But by now? I'd have torn that rear end up for her. HCTJM is what is needed here.
    I'm still half asleep but what is H TJM ??
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        03-03-2013, 09:17 AM
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    Not to be too crude about this, but quit handling her like a horse. It has been said the only object here is to get her hauled, not trained. 1 or 2 CCs of Ace won't do anything on a full grown horse. Load her up with at least 6 CCs given orally while the horse is calm, walk away and wait 45 minutes for it to take effect. If you excite the horse prior to that she will blow right through it. If you use anything stronger, after the horse is in the trailer, wait till it wears off some or the horse has a good chance of falling down while on the road. Get her drugged, have a chute made to the back of the trailer, find some cattle folks to help and treat her like a bull. Drive her from behind (buggy whips, using the handle end or a stock sorting stick) and let her know in no uncertain terms the only place for relief is in the trailer. Turn the lights on in the trailer so its not a dark hole. Make sure your chute is set up so you can get the door shut as soon as she is in. Get her moving towards the trailer as fast as you can so she goes clear in when she goes. Less apt to rear at the door this way. It ain't pretty and who ever has to train her later to trailer load will have their work cut out for them, but this works. Have loaded multiple stray feral horses and unbroke race horses amped up on 20 lbs a day Omalene 300 this way. The worst part is you have already trained the horse to defeat you at loading, so completely change your approach. Once you get her in the trailer, get moving as soon as you can. Most all horses will settle down once they are moving. Don't go in the trailer and try and tie her, just leave her loose and go. At the destination, back up to a pen, open the door and get out of the way! She may rush out, she may just stand there. Either way, you don't want to get in her way. Good luck to you!
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        03-03-2013, 09:19 AM
      #69
    Green Broke
    Hightime for a Come To Jesus Meeting... is my guess...

    IOW's she has laid down the gauntlet.. and let the fight ensue.. and BTW you losing is not the answer.
         
        03-03-2013, 09:21 AM
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    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by tailskidwest    
    Not to be too crude about this, but quit handling her like a horse. It has been said the only object here is to get her hauled, not trained. 1 or 2 CCs of Ace won't do anything on a full grown horse. Load her up with at least 6 CCs given orally while the horse is calm, walk away and wait 45 minutes for it to take effect. If you excite the horse prior to that she will blow right through it. If you use anything stronger, after the horse is in the trailer, wait till it wears off some or the horse has a good chance of falling down while on the road. Get her drugged, have a chute made to the back of the trailer, find some cattle folks to help and treat her like a bull. Drive her from behind (buggy whips, using the handle end or a stock sorting stick) and let her know in no uncertain terms the only place for relief is in the trailer. Turn the lights on in the trailer so its not a dark hole. Make sure your chute is set up so you can get the door shut as soon as she is in. Get her moving towards the trailer as fast as you can so she goes clear in when she goes. Less apt to rear at the door this way. It ain't pretty and who ever has to train her later to trailer load will have their work cut out for them, but this works. Have loaded multiple stray feral horses and unbroke race horses amped up on 20 lbs a day Omalene 300 this way. The worst part is you have already trained the horse to defeat you at loading, so completely change your approach. Once you get her in the trailer, get moving as soon as you can. Most all horses will settle down once they are moving. Don't go in the trailer and try and tie her, just leave her loose and go. At the destination, back up to a pen, open the door and get out of the way! She may rush out, she may just stand there. Either way, you don't want to get in her way. Good luck to you!
    My emphasis added. I agree 100%.
         

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