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    02-29-2012, 11:57 PM
  #11
Yearling
Would you all train a high strung horse/pony differently then a reg. One? It seems to me that it is really hard to get her attention...Like I'm not getting down to her brain.. :)
     
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    03-01-2012, 07:35 AM
  #12
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'Work-a-holics' do not appreciate 'rest time' like other horses.

The key to me is that she is rearing. She is not ready for riding with both reins at the same time. A very forward horse benefits a great deal from 'one rein riding'.

Teach her a 'one rein stop' and school her entirely by riding with one rein at a time until she settles into riding and loses the resistance. That means serpentines, circles, leg yields and other maneuvers that you use one dominant rein. It also teaches that 'leg' means respond -- not just going faster.

A horse just cannot fight one rein riding and certainly will not learn bad habits like head fighting and rearing.
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    03-01-2012, 12:37 PM
  #13
Yearling
That's one problem that I have, and I've wanted to know how other people handle it...How are you supposed to ride a pony that is WAY to small? She's like 10.hh at the max... How do other people train ponies? Are there any books on training ponies? Would it be better to train her thoroughly in Driving? Then have a child ride it? How do trainers train ponies without having a child that knows how to train/ride the pony???

I've always had these questions floating about in my head, and I hope somebody has the answer...

An example of her not paying attention to me is like this. I'll tell her to whoa and will stop, she will stop, but is totally not focused on me at all, and will be looking the other way...When I go she will go...But I know if I told her to "whoa" when she is galloping she wouldn't stop...It's like I need to break the surface so she will pay attention to ME! How do you teach something to someone if you don't have their entire attention?
     
    03-01-2012, 12:43 PM
  #14
Green Broke
In holding a horse back will key them up and make them go. I would work on a more relaxed rein when stopped. I was watching a driving lesson with a saddlebred and the owner kept a tight rein when stopped. The horse kept wanting to go. Once the instructor finally got the driver to relax the rein the horse stood quietly. Contact is a signal to collect up and go. The tighter the rein the faster you go. Now that said. I would be long lining and lunging and have my voice commands down pat.
When doing an upward transition I say
Alright walk on. Or alright trot in a livelier tone. When they hera the upbeat ALRIGHT they no they are going to speed up.
When doing a downward transition I lower my voice and say Now walk
Now whoa. So when they hear the lower NOW they no to go slower.
     
    03-01-2012, 12:48 PM
  #15
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by EmilyJoy    
That's one problem that I have, and I've wanted to know how other people handle it...How are you supposed to ride a pony that is WAY to small? She's like 10.hh at the max... How do other people train ponies? Are there any books on training ponies? Would it be better to train her thoroughly in Driving? Then have a child ride it? How do trainers train ponies without having a child that knows how to train/ride the pony???

I've always had these questions floating about in my head, and I hope somebody has the answer...

An example of her not paying attention to me is like this. I'll tell her to whoa and will stop, she will stop, but is totally not focused on me at all, and will be looking the other way...When I go she will go...But I know if I told her to "whoa" when she is galloping she wouldn't stop...It's like I need to break the surface so she will pay attention to ME! How do you teach something to someone if you don't have their entire attention?
Lots of ground work will get her focused on you. I would not get on until you have her focus. You should be controlling her head so she looks straight and not looky looing at anything else.
     
    03-01-2012, 12:52 PM
  #16
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We have always ground driven them in long lines. No blinders and no cart. They can bend and they can do everything that you do under saddle.

We always run our lines through a ring attached near the back of their saddle. It gives them a lot more incentive to bend through their whole body and not just their necks.

They quickly learn that they stay straight when pulling and bend when riding.

When they won't stand still, we drive them to a rope with a snap on it and snap them up to a halter we leave under their bridle. We stand behind them, move around, flop the long lines, drag them all over their rumps and legs and just keep them tied until they stand still and rest a hind leg.
     
    03-01-2012, 01:57 PM
  #17
Yearling
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Originally Posted by churumbeque    
Lots of ground work will get her focused on you. I would not get on until you have her focus. You should be controlling her head so she looks straight and not looky looing at anything else.
You would ride her even though she is to small? I'm not saying it's bad or anything I just wanted to make sure that is what you're saying..
     
    03-01-2012, 02:04 PM
  #18
Green Broke
It sounds like she has been riding that's not what the question was she wanna know how to get focused
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    03-01-2012, 02:18 PM
  #19
Yearling
Aren't most hackneys energetic ponies? I know the 20 or so I've met (breeding farm) were bred to be fast and strong for roadster classes and stuff. I know they never used them for riding ponies because they tend to be too fast of the kids small enough to ride them. I don't doubt they are be trained, and good luck.
     
    03-02-2012, 01:07 PM
  #20
Yearling
I think if I can get her past her spooky/foolishness, and if can train her to respond to commands spoken by any person instantly she'll be the perfect (and the smartest/cutest!) pony for my younger brothers...And that is my goal for her...She is NOT my riding horse...
I also want to train her to drive...
So with that in mind after I get her trained on the ground fairly well and when I am ready to work her in the saddle how do you recommended I do that? Would you get on and ride her for the first few rides, or how would you train her without getting on to be ridden??????
There has got to be other people with this problem...I think..:)

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