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post #101 of 121 Old 04-26-2010, 06:14 PM
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I had a vet give my geld a TON of an ace mixture because he needed his sheath cleaned BAD, and he wasnt reacting to it.

He had so much he was walking like a drunk. No side effects, but I probably would request derm or xylazine if its needed again. Now my colt just got gelded, so hes got a fair amount of sheath swelling. I wont give him ace for any reason right now, because combined with his swelling it could be an issue.
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post #102 of 121 Old 04-26-2010, 07:09 PM
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Kevin, you're my hero. My filly is fearless, and I cannot possible teach her anything unless she is terified of me. Do you have any suggestions on what I can do or buy to make her pee her pants and cower in fear when I come to the barn? Please!? I'm just SOOOO desperate!

To the OP, WOW.

On loading, I lunge my "hard-to-load" [aka bad experience] mare into the trailer. It's nice and open, and I just march on up. If she stops or hesitates, I bring her back and lunge her, with part of the circle lining her up with the trailer. I lunge at the trot, and I try again when she stops "spooking" and eye-balling the trailer. Lather, rinse, repeat. No whips. No chains. No second person. No force. No pressure at all. Get in the trailer or lunge, get in the trailer or lunge, get in the trailer or lunge. I cannot for the life of me figure out why people make things so very difficult for themselves and for their horses. ::sigh::

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post #103 of 121 Old 04-26-2010, 08:19 PM
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I did not say that every horse would have a bad reaction. I was simply adding a word of caution that there are side effects to be given special consideration when using it on males. Not everyone is aware that there CAN be a negative side effect or that there are alternative tranqs.
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post #104 of 121 Old 04-26-2010, 08:54 PM
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Is there a magic saddle too?
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post #105 of 121 Old 04-27-2010, 08:44 PM
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is there a natural parenting method that I can pass info out on? I mean, if whippy sticks and hot pink halters work on horses, couldn't the same method work on unruly children?

Spent a whole hour today laying in a pasture, waiting for a sparkling vampire to show up. Alas, I woke up and looked over, only to find a mound of horse crap. Sigh.
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post #106 of 121 Old 04-27-2010, 08:57 PM
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is there a natural parenting method that I can pass info out on? I mean, if whippy sticks and hot pink halters work on horses, couldn't the same method work on unruly children?
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post #107 of 121 Old 04-27-2010, 09:42 PM
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Tune into your horse. Why is she feeling anxious about going into this trailer? Is there a specific reason, do you think, or is it more of the classic being-flighty-cuz-of-the-creepy-boogey-man-looking-box-on-wheels-she's-trying-to-lock-me-in? ;) Do all you can to make her comfortable...and this starts with you. Do not act confident, dominant, or like the leader......BE confident, BE dominant, and BE the leader. So do not attempt training her loading when you are in a pissed off mood, for example. A mistake a lot of people do is act differently than how they are feeling--well, horses KNOW, so that's not gunna fly. :3

When your energy is aligned, tune into her energy. There are several ways you can do this....

1) Do you know her color? Colors help me as a mantra. Now what exactly is this crazy person talking to you about? :P Imagine a shield of your life energy coming out from you inner core and surrounding you peacefully. What color is it? exactly what color is it? Next time you are with your horse, put your hands on her; imagine your energy engulfing and mingling with hers. Now: What color do you see? This is the color of the shield made when you combine your energy with your horses. This will be different for everyone, because it is the combination of YOUR SPIRIT and HER'S. Really a beautiful thing. ♥ Anyways, recalling this color will calm your energy, and with your bond, it should calm her as well.
2) Recall a peaceful scene--it can be real or made up--that is pleasurable for you as well as your horse. In this case, you want it to relax your energy. For example, my most common energy-aligning scene is imagining myself soaking the spring sun in a wild field, Horse grazing beside me, with a creek flowing nearby....... Practice this image. What some people do is create a "button" that recalls their memory/emotion. For example, pushing your right thumb onto your left palm, or even something like squeezing your arm (so that it only takes one hand). When you have your "button" and your scene, practice "pushing your button" and immediately being engulfed in the scene throughout your day--while getting the mail, while at a tack store, while watching a movie.....you get the idea. ;]

Okay...as I probably have proved already, I could go on for hours on this...and I didn't even get to the real practical part yet. So basically, what the gist of this is, is instead of trying to convince her to move her butt and feel uncomfortable about it, convince her to move her mindset and feel safe and accomplished. ^^

If you have any Q's let me know...again, I really am forcing myself to stop writing!! (if you can't tell :[ lol)

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This thread has been most entertaining, thank you guys. I'll just add my 2 cents based on personal experience with the original topic.

Two words: John Lyons. I swear by the man and his teachings. I have found his method of trailer loading to be excellent, as the horse is actually TAUGHT to load.....not FORCED to load. There is a BIG difference between the two.

I have taken his methods and applied them to 2 different horses in my life, meeting with success both times.

As John Lyon's would tell you.....there are only 2 emotions that belong when working with horses....patience and a sense of humor.

And in regard to the post by TheGoldenFilly....you need to put down the crack pipe.

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This thread has been most entertaining, thank you guys. I'll just add my 2 cents based on personal experience with the original topic.

Two words: John Lyons. I swear by the man and his teachings. I have found his method of trailer loading to be excellent, as the horse is actually TAUGHT to load.....not FORCED to load. There is a BIG difference between the two.

I have taken his methods and applied them to 2 different horses in my life, meeting with success both times.

As John Lyon's would tell you.....there are only 2 emotions that belong when working with horses....patience and a sense of humor.

And in regard to the post by TheGoldenFilly....you need to put down the crack pipe.
ROFL! DITTO! hehe
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post #110 of 121 Old 04-30-2010, 09:22 PM
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Its been a long day, snowing like crazy and running errands.. I was just worn out, but came and read this thread and I have laughed until I cried. I love the comment about the crack pipe... And of course the trainers course. Kevin, you make me smile, maybe someday we will meet, utah and wyoming are close together.
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