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post #1 of 20 Old 02-03-2012, 10:37 PM Thread Starter
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Unhappy Herd Bound Filly!! Need Suggestions

Ill try to be as descriptive as possible. Me and my sister in law, both bought filly's. The person we bought them off of, said mine was a very sensitive filly, when she weaned her, she took it harder than she's ever seen. When she knew the 2 were coming together, she put them together and mine grabbed onto the other. Here lies the problem. They are kept at my place, can see each other in thier stalls. When I take mine out(sensitive one) she keeps looking towards the barn and whinnies but is okay. Now you leave her in the barn and take the bigger one out, mine LOSES her mind. Throws herself against the walls, whinnes, kicks, rears, and gets sooo worked up, that iam scared she's going to hurt herself, or take a heart attack. I've always had horses, but never had a foal. Never ever had this problem!.Everything is awesome except for this. This is my huge problem! I've had horse friends tell me different things...leave her in the stall, to freak out, when she calms, take her out, I had some tell me to tie her very very short to a post, a well anchored post...when she cannot hurt herself, and leave her until she calms. I've had someone suggest, just take away one of them for awhile, I've had someone else say get other animals for her to bond with.
What iam wondering is has anyone had this problem? Or tried any of these things? I've looked on the internet, and nothing really is what iam looking for, or need, specifically. I need help with this issue. Anybody have suggestions...or stories that they did with thier horses?

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i had some tell me to tie her very very short to a post, a well anchored post...when she cannot hurt herself, and leave her until she calms. I
Sorry to be frank but whoever told you that was a moron. Tying a filly while she is freaking out is terrible advice.

My advice would be to get her into a round pen or arena. Take both fillies to this place. Start working your filly, get her to listen, etc. Then, in the middle of the session, take away your friend's filly. Your filly will become nervous. Keep working your filly until she is calmer, or at least responsive (but be careful not to overwork her, as she is young yet). Then, ask your friend to reintroduce the other filly. This way you will teach the filly to respond to you, and at the same time you will teach her that her friend always comes back. Start small, and build on it. Soon enough, you will have a filly that listens to you and not to her herdmates.

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These two fillies just need to be weaned from each other. If they could be stabled on different places, your training process would be much simpler. Chances are that your filly is a very insecure type of horse and will probably attach to any horse she is with for very long.

That would be my suggestion.
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I don't think you need to move one to a different barn, just move them so they can't see each other in the stalls and turn them out separately.
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These two fillies just need to be weaned from each other. If they could be stabled on different places, your training process would be much simpler. Chances are that your filly is a very insecure type of horse and will probably attach to any horse she is with for very long.

That would be my suggestion.
I have to agree here. You need to get your filly to where she is bonding more with you not the other foal. Sounds like she has latched onto this other foal after being separated from her mother and now she is replacing that which in the long run is not good. We have 12 yo twh that does this when you take one of our other geldings away and I do tie him. I keep them as far apart as I can. They are never pastures together or in side by side stalls. But, he is 12 yo, and has a lot more training behind him. In would not advise tieing a youngster as they don't quite have everything down pat and could really hurt themselves.

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I agree with Lakotababii. Working your young lady gently through the anxiety is OODLES better than giving her anxiety a negative event to forever cement to. Tying a scared animal is about as effective as cornering a scared animal... it isn't.

This isn't to say you shouldn't work up to that point, but, just think of life from her perspective over the last few months. 'I was just weaned. Some strange humans trailered me away with only ONE other herdmate I know... I don't know what will happen to me!!!' Her only point of 'consistency' is the herdmate, so it's only natural for her to be HIGHLY aware of the other's presence.

She's a young girl in a dramatically changing world. Be consistent, gentle, and always aware and she'll turn out A-Okay.
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Is there anyway she could be put with a babysitter?

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Sorry to be frank but whoever told you that was a moron. Tying a filly while she is freaking out is terrible advice.
And the sad thing is I know at least 8 people off the top of my head that have done this. It works but it's sad.. :/

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Since you bought them together.. you're going to have to treat them like one is mama and one is baby. They do need to be separate because you need to help your filly with her confidence.

Another point, can you get a goat or something so she's not alone? Maybe not seeing her friend is half the problem.. maybe she's just terrified of being alone in a big old dark box ?

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Is there anyway she could be put with a babysitter?
Unfortunately, a babysitter would be too like a mother, and I think the foal would become even more attached to it.

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thanks for all the help

I have heard so many ideas, and some of them I just.....i dunno doesn't seem like I COULD do it. Like tying. And if I did, how long for and how many times a week....but I don't think I could do that one, she's so young.

Her stall is next door to the other filly's. I am going to completely fill in the wall between them, but she still would see the other filly leaving the barn. Do I just let her freak till she tires? And put them out alone seperately?

I may have someone boarding a horse with me in the spring, a aged mare. Having her in the barn with her when the other is gone...would that help....? I do plan on getting goats in the spring too.....so iam hoping, but I don't wanna leave it go too long....

I've also heard that licking is part of the seperation anxiety thing. She licks my coat and the dog, and the other filly sometimes. But my coat and hands all the time.... anyone hear anything about that?

If I was to have to move one of them to a different barn......for how long? She's such a sweet girl...and this is my only big problem to worry about. The other filly will be leaving in a couple years to down the road, but that's too late to work on this I think. I spend alot of time with her, so I think she trusts me...i plan on showing them this year........its going to be an experience. Thank god , they will be in the same couple of classes.....lol.And even if they are beside each other in the stalls at the show, they won't be able to see each other.

Thank you thank you for all suggestions so far. Keep em coming.
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