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    07-20-2012, 01:42 AM
Hmmm tying I will try that next time I am working with one and see how it goes. However I do want to mention that working with horses especially working through a problem such as herd bound is not easy nor is it always super safe. You always have to be aware of the conditions you are working in, is it slick from rain or ice? Is is super hot out? You don't want to damage or hurt yourself or the horse. Be aware of your capabilities as a rider can you ride a horse out if it decides to go bronco on you? Do you know how to pull it out of it? Have you done it before? Be prepared to make last minute changes to your plan to suit yourself and your horses capabilities. You need to be careful not to get hurt and not to work outside your capabilities as a rider/trainer.
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    07-20-2012, 03:15 AM
I started a thread a while ago about this very same thing and Cherie gave me the exact same advice that she gave the OP. It is fantastic advice and I wouldn't do it any other way now. My mare spent about 5 hours for three days tied up to a power pole outside our house.

The first day was quite amazing because by god my horse had a couple of major tanty's!!! She reared, she pawed, she screamed. I initially didn't have her tied short enough and she had enough leverage l to snap the stainless steel clip on her halter. I had to go chasing her down the road to the other horse, catch her and drag her all the way back to tie her again. The whole time I watched her perform all I could think was "Thank god I am not trying to ride that - no wonder our last ride together was so bad!"
    07-20-2012, 03:21 AM
Sorry for the double post I had to submit my other one coz my computer did something weird.

After three sessions on the post I took her out for a ride and she was back to her normal self. My honest advice is to take Cherie's advice, it really works and is safe.
    07-20-2012, 03:29 AM
I have a question about the tying method...

The festival has a saddlebred who is majorly herd sour, and whenever she is away from the pasture, [even if she is tacking up with other horses] she freaks out. It got to the point where she'd rear and almost every time almost fell on herself while still tied. Is it still safe to just tie her?
    07-20-2012, 03:31 AM
Originally Posted by DancingArabian    
Groundwork groundwork groundwork.

Control your horses feet. Make him yield and turn back up. Make him run where you want. If you can work him in the field a little bit and stay safe, do it there too. Get a rope halter and use gloves. Crack the whip the second his ear is not turned to you and don't be afraid to smack him if he needs it. Keep a whip at all times if he gets pushy and get his attention. Ack on you whenever it slips away.

Good luck and stay safe!
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I don't think this will work on a herd bound horse. I tried riding it out of my horse, same theory as yours, moving feet, circles, endless trotting and cantering. It never helped, Phoenix just did what she had to do but at no point did I feel that I had her attention. I could move her body but just could not get her mind on me. It was EXTREMELY frustrating and to be honest got to the point where it started to feel dangerous. Tying up really works and you can watch them nut it out themselves you don't have to be involved at all.
    07-20-2012, 03:41 AM
Originally Posted by Deschutes    
I have a question about the tying method...

The festival has a saddlebred who is majorly herd sour, and whenever she is away from the pasture, [even if she is tacking up with other horses] she freaks out. It got to the point where she'd rear and almost every time almost fell on herself while still tied. Is it still safe to just tie her?
On the first day I tied Phoenix I didn't tie her short enough, she reared up and got one leg over the rope and ended up stuck - she tied her head to her leg. I then tied her shorter but she still had enough length to break her shank. Sooooo I then tied her so short that all she could do was scream, paw and swing her bum backwards and forwards. She was not happy but settled down after a couple of hours.

Personally regarding the saddlebred I would tie her up real short and leave her to it, who wants to be bothered by a frantic horse that you can't tie up? Either she learns to tie or she kills herself - I call that win win.
    07-20-2012, 08:38 AM
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I ONLY tie one of these up. I do not want them running in a stall, paddock or round pen. They will take a lot longer and may never get over it if they can run around. Some will run until they cripple themselves, will try to jump out (had that happen) and can start new bad habits like weaving and stall walking.

For me, (and I've tried it all), only tying one up where they can't break anything, and can't hurt themselves is the only fix. I have not had a single one that did not 'fix' from tying them up. I usually use a rope hanging down from tree limb and it is imperative that is has a good swivel in it. I use a nylon rope with a 5 inch swivel bull snap. You can get these huge snaps from a draft horse / mule supply place. I get them by the box from a vendor from a big draft, mule and wagon sale or from an Amish harness maker.
    07-20-2012, 12:08 PM
Thanks everyone, for your advice. Its funny because yesterday I did exactly what you guys are saying, I tied him up and let him have a little "enforced quiet time". He was tied to a short tie, above wither height, in a stall, will this still be effective if its done in a stall? It seemed to work.
Thanks again everyone! :)
    07-20-2012, 09:44 PM
Green Broke
I'm not sure how you feel on this Cherie, but I would personally strongly advise using a rope halter. Not only can they NOT break it like a leather or nylon halter, it HURTS for them to haul back on it and you get twice as much respect. Having so many tying issues with Jynx over the years I've learned to absolutely love it because it's the only type of halter that she'll haul back on ONCE and then basically have the rest of her tantrum without ever tightening up the rope again. She's broken every other type of halter I've tied her in.

My big challenge is going to be finding a tree or post to tie her to at a show. I don't want her tied to our beautiful trailer after what she did to it and she's bound to hurt herself in the process! This would be SO much easier if she was herdbound at home as well!!!!


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