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post #31 of 40 Old 01-09-2014, 08:06 PM
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Thanks for bringing up those points, hmm, my trainer has always said I have lovely quiet hands. So I don't think that's the issue, and his saddle is a flex tree, so I think it fits. I don't have a video right now. But I'll find one on the computer or take one next time I ride him and post it! Thanks for the response.
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I have a flex saddle too, and it fits wonderfully.

That said, it's a wide and its for a half draft. Flex trees generally only flex one cm, which is quite a tiny amount, but it makes the tree just flexible enough to be more comfortable for the horse.

What I'm saying is a flex tree is NOT like a treeless saddle-its not one size fits all. You will need to get a proper fit, balance, etc, to ensure the comfort of your horse.
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post #32 of 40 Old 01-09-2014, 08:34 PM
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I have to agree with Sahara here. And the saddle has nothing to do where his head is at, not in this case

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post #33 of 40 Old 01-09-2014, 09:04 PM Thread Starter
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I have a flex saddle too, and it fits wonderfully.

That said, it's a wide and its for a half draft. Flex trees generally only flex one cm, which is quite a tiny amount, but it makes the tree just flexible enough to be more comfortable for the horse.

What I'm saying is a flex tree is NOT like a treeless saddle-its not one size fits all. You will need to get a proper fit, balance, etc, to ensure the comfort of your horse.
Thank you, and I did get it professionally fitted by a very trustworthy family friend.
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I have to agree with Sahara here. And the saddle has nothing to do where his head is at, not in this case
Okay. So I should just keep working on getting him in balance, and then his headset will come?
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post #35 of 40 Old 01-09-2014, 09:06 PM
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Okay. So I should just keep working on getting him in balance, and then his headset will come?
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Yes :)

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post #36 of 40 Old 01-09-2014, 09:15 PM Thread Starter
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Perfect! Thank you so much!
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post #37 of 40 Old 01-11-2014, 01:57 AM
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If he was an ex-rope horse, he will be a little hot blooded and especially in the arena. It sounds like you are doing good with him and yes it does take A LOT of patience :) I would work on a really good head down queue and make sure he has it down fantastically at a stand, then at a trot and so on. I have found that when a horse gets excited, usually the head will come up which means there is less blood going to the brain and more excitement. So by teaching him this head down queue, you can bring his headset down and keep him calmer. It can be a good amount of work but it sounds like you already knew that, you said he has come a long way. Be positive, don't get discouraged. :) Hope this helps a little.
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post #38 of 40 Old 01-11-2014, 11:03 AM
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OP, since this is a former rope horse, it will take quite a bit of time for him to get used to not "bracing" against contact...we ropers like our horses to avoid the contact so that when we do contact them with the bit, they either drop the hind end to "set" the cow for the turn; or they should be stopping and backing up....

One way to get him used to this is to ask him to back while keeping his head low from the start(most will usually pick the head up a bit when they start to back); then, once you get this ask him to keep his head there(low) after you quit queing the back; once he is good at that, then ask for forward movement while in contact with the bit....and keep progressing up with your speed...

Alot of ropers never worry about headset, only that the horse moves off the bit, so your horse is just doing what he thought you wanted

And to add, I don't think his headset is that high....
ropin, I tried your suggestion with my horse, the one in my avatar. I have been trying to get her to lower her head for quite a while now and nothing has really worked well. She hates bit contact and if I try to use that to lower her head, she refuses the bridle on her next tacking up.

We have already developed a lovely backup, soft and nice poll flexion. We back frequently while riding to reinforce a good stop and using her hind end.

So, I backed her and didn't let her walk off unless her head was low. It took 3 times, and she was moving off with a nice low head! Then, if the head shot back up, I would whoa and back and start over. Awesome!!

Thanks Ropin!((hug))
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If he was an ex-rope horse, he will be a little hot blooded and especially in the arena. It sounds like you are doing good with him and yes it does take A LOT of patience :) I would work on a really good head down queue and make sure he has it down fantastically at a stand, then at a trot and so on. I have found that when a horse gets excited, usually the head will come up which means there is less blood going to the brain and more excitement. So by teaching him this head down queue, you can bring his headset down and keep him calmer. It can be a good amount of work but it sounds like you already knew that, you said he has come a long way. Be positive, don't get discouraged. :) Hope this helps a little.
Thank you that does! Also thank you for the encouragement, I appreciate it:)
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post #40 of 40 Old 01-12-2014, 11:52 AM
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Tiffany, glad it helped you out!!
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