Honey.....Trust issues.
 
 

       The Horse Forum > Training Horses > Horse Training

Honey.....Trust issues.

This is a discussion on Honey.....Trust issues. within the Horse Training forums, part of the Training Horses category
  • Mare with trust issues
  • Horses with trust issues

 
LinkBack Thread Tools
    02-24-2010, 01:31 PM
  #1
Trained
Honey.....Trust issues.

I need help. I have my little mare Honey who wouldn't trust you if her life depended on it. She's just so independant, and she will go her own way despite what you think.

So I need help getting her to trust me. I've been spending a lot of time with her since we brought her home about five months ago, but there hasn't been any change. What do you guys think?
     
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
    02-24-2010, 01:53 PM
  #2
Showing
Some horses just aren't trusting. My Dad's horse Pokey is one of those, he doesn't like to be fiddled with or groomed or petted. He behaves best when you just get on and put him to work. If you try to pamper him or play with him, he will start getting all snorty like "What in the world are you trying to do here?!" You might try just giving her a job instead of trying to be her friend, that may be what she likes best.
     
    02-24-2010, 02:25 PM
  #3
Yearling
I had a colt that was very much like that...even as a foal, he wasn't one to be fussed over. As a 3 year old he was happiest being brought out, ridden, and put back to eat. He was never affectionate, and not from lack of trying...he just didn't enjoy it. Trust is one thing - respect is another though. Whether a horse likes to be fussed over or not, they need to respect you as the leader.
     
    02-24-2010, 06:23 PM
  #4
Green Broke
You can try the umbilical approach, I have seen it done with untrusting dogs...

All you do is take her everywhere with you, when you are running around the farm doing chores and stuff take her with you. Always keep her within a few feet of you when possible and touch her and treat her as much as possible. Let her see that people are good, that is good to be around people.

Maybe make yourself her only companion, make her bond to you (if you are able to spend a lot of time each day with her, if not then she needs some other company like a horse or goat or something) that way when she sees you coming she associated it with company and fun.

If that does not work you can always try a join up type thing, there are plenty of books and videos you can find over it...

IF THAT DOES NOT WORK, she probably just does not like people very much and nothing you can do will change her mind, best to just treat her as she wants to be treated and not expect her to be very affectionate.
     
    02-24-2010, 06:33 PM
  #5
Started
I agree and disagree. I think no matter what horse personality or past, a horse can be trusted. It will just take alot of time and patience. You just need to learn how to work with an independent horse. I think the more independent they are the deeper the bond you can get with them is.
     
    02-24-2010, 06:35 PM
  #6
Green Broke
My mare rena is like that, it took her trainer (before we bought her) 3 HOURS to get her to eve think about joining up.
But with rena its not really a trust issue, more of she's just independant. Even now (after about 6 months) she's just starting to show effectiion to me. Soeimes it just takes a longer time with some, and some just arent people horses (har-har)
     
    02-24-2010, 06:43 PM
  #7
Banned
Sorry for double post...why can't we delete posts????
     
    02-24-2010, 06:43 PM
  #8
Banned
Quote:
Originally Posted by SorrelHorse    
I need help. I have my little mare Honey who wouldn't trust you if her life depended on it. She's just so independant, and she will go her own way despite what you think.

So I need help getting her to trust me. I've been spending a lot of time with her since we brought her home about five months ago, but there hasn't been any change. What do you guys think?
Trust and independence are two very different things and not synonymous with each other.

A horse can display trust AND independence at the same time. A horse can display trust AND not be an independent individual. Or a horse can display neither trust NOR an independent nature.

I'm going to need a specific situation described because I'm not sure you have an understanding of what's happening.
     
    02-24-2010, 07:01 PM
  #9
Banned
^^ Completely agree. My gelding is a thinker, he likes to be on his own but he does trust me. I am his rock. He may give me a hard eye for getting all of the dirt off of him, but he still respects me.

From what you've written, it sounds like she may not necessarily respect you. It's not that you spend lots of time with her, but how.
     
    02-25-2010, 12:49 AM
  #10
Foal
You are not the only one, you are actually lucky. Some people go through a dramatic experience with horse where both horse and rider are traumatized. Then neither can trust the other and the longer they weight the harder it gets.
Last year I was with my horse in a very busy arena, about to leave! There were about nine horses crammed into a small indoor arena, all flighty from a long break. A green horse with a bad rider spooked at a noise from snow falling off the roof and bolted, obvioulsy making the other 8 horses bolt. My horse came crashing into me as he ran past me and knocked me to the ground(luckly I wasn't trampled. One rider was trampled and one had a concussion. My horse, being extremely fast slammed into the side of the arena and jumped out and slid into a wall. It took 30 minutes to catch all the horses and mine was last. He had a complete spaz being left alone and reared up a lot. No one helped me bring him back to his field which was far away and on the way he bolted and dragged me through the snow. He ran a km down the rode to another pasture and took 45 minutes to catch. Five months later he was "normal" again and stopped spooking. That was a year ago and only a month ago did we start trusting each other again. That's how I learned to trust a horse. I learned to understand him completely and ultimately listen to him. The most important thing to do is do something you are comfortable doing so the horse doesn't feel you being nervous. Start on the ground. Bring out your horse and let her do what she likes. Work based on respect. Always listen to her. Be confident in everything yourself or the horse will have no reason to trust you. Why would you trust someone not confident in themselves. Never thing "she might not do it" or "it won't work" have a mental thought of "it willwork, there is no other way, it just will".

Exercises:
1)(roundpen):Free lunge her at whatever pace she wants (walk, trot or canter). Talk to her while she goes around you and watch to see if she focuses on you. If she is distracted put a halter on her and lunge her with a lunge line so she doesn't get stressed by feeling alone by calling out to other horses. When she is in tune with you and the atmosphere is peaceful just stop and look down and bend your body away from her as to draw her towards you. Just wait for her to come and as soon as she does reward her with a treat. Walk around with her and when she is bent towards you and follows you, reward her. This is not a join up, it doesn't force the horse to come to you, you are inviting her. A join up gives the horse no choice but to come to you-that's force, the horse doesn't want to so he doesn't want to be with you.

2)(roundpen): you are going to confidently lead your horse into scary situations, it especially works after the first exercise. Set up a tarp at one end of the round pen and without thinking it is anything special walk over it(with horse in arena but not on lunge or lead=free). If she follows you when you do this then reward her. Then put on a halter and leadrope and walk her around the roundpen(not on tarp), and then withouth thinking anything is different just walk over the tarp. If she doesn't follow don't pull. That will make her shut her brain from work and pull back and away from you. Just stand on the tarp and wait. Every step closer she takes reward her. If walking over it was no problem then don't worry about the second long part.

3) scary stuff on the horse: If she freely walks over the tarp following you then this is the next step. Putting the tarp on her. Always draw her towards you. Start by just touching the tarp to her shoulder and then move it over onto her, keep rewarding her. If she needs to move take the tarp off and let her move in a circle around you and then when she is calm try again.
     

Quick Reply
Please help keep the Horse Forum enjoyable by reporting rude posts.
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Help Me With Honey? SorrelHorse Horse Training 10 11-15-2009 12:21 AM
My day with Evo & Honey. ohmyitschelle Horse Pictures 4 06-15-2009 01:16 AM
It's the Evo, Bailey and Honey Show! ohmyitschelle Horse Pictures 8 04-22-2009 07:49 AM
Honey got ridden today! ohmyitschelle Horse Pictures 11 02-13-2009 02:11 AM



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:22 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0