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post #21 of 29 Old 08-02-2011, 12:55 PM
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Love the 3 second rule.
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Yes, the 3 second rule is great!

And as my trainer always tells me, "Be Fair". So after disciplining the horse, when it then starts behaving, make sure to praise for for doing so. So when my horse nips and promptly gets smacked, when he gets over it and is standing quietly, I make sure to give him a few rubs, tell him what a good boy he is and then continue on with what I was doing.
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I love the 3 second rule too. I think starting tomorrow (which is the next time I see Cinny) he is going to think it's the absolute end of the world if he gets nippy or out of line.
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I don't know if this has been covered or not, but my gelding was a bad biter, and I mean he was biting to hurt you. As soon as he started getting good quality food in his belly, his bad attitude and biting stopped.

This past weekend he had to be off his feed for 16 hours to be scoped--when I went to crosstie him the morning of the appointment he tried to bite me when I went to clip the crosstie on his face.

More or less he was being a butt head to say UHH WHERE IS MY FOOD LADY??

Has the hay quality changed recently? Has the barn changed feed?
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All I can add is it only took two good hard wacks with Jack. He tried biting a friend that was brushing him and I was right there & met him with my hand as he was coming. Second time, he tried to bite my 7 year old & again, I met him head on with my hand. Never happened again!

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post #26 of 29 Old 08-02-2011, 08:59 PM
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I do not think hand feeding causes biting! I've been doing it for years and my horses are very polite.

My friends and I all hand feed treats. I would be kind of a sad situation if we had to treat our horses with such kid gloves that we couldn't do that.
I agree with erikalynn and the above poster!!

We hand feed both our horses. Epona the draft we've been hand feeding for 2 yrs. She NEVER bites, not ever. Not in two years.

Our OTTB had a horrible biting problem when he came to us. We worked on our "no bite campaign" and continued to feed him treats. He is now about 95% bite free..... once in a while he will forget and nip us.....but NEVER EVEr WHEN WE HAND feed him. The nips usually come out of the blue, when we are doing something else and not paying attention.

Our no bite campaing is fairly simple. When he nips, we yell "NO" really lound and clap our hands loudly in his face. He really hates us clapping our hands in his face, and avoids what he knows causes us to do this....most of the time. We do not hit him as we feel that is just going to make him head shy....like he used to be. We worked hard on that and he is now not one bit head shy, and we don't want to undo all our work.

So...when he does something to make us uncomfortable, I.e. Biting....we do something to make him uncomfortable, I.e. Loud shouts and hand clapping.
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I don't know if this has been covered or not, but my gelding was a bad biter, and I mean he was biting to hurt you. As soon as he started getting good quality food in his belly, his bad attitude and biting stopped.

This past weekend he had to be off his feed for 16 hours to be scoped--when I went to crosstie him the morning of the appointment he tried to bite me when I went to clip the crosstie on his face.

More or less he was being a butt head to say UHH WHERE IS MY FOOD LADY??

Has the hay quality changed recently? Has the barn changed feed?
Actually, his hay changed.... we are getting better quality LOL. And this started just before the change.
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I agree with erikalynn and the above poster!!

We hand feed both our horses. Epona the draft we've been hand feeding for 2 yrs. She NEVER bites, not ever. Not in two years.

Our OTTB had a horrible biting problem when he came to us. We worked on our "no bite campaign" and continued to feed him treats. He is now about 95% bite free..... once in a while he will forget and nip us.....but NEVER EVEr WHEN WE HAND feed him. The nips usually come out of the blue, when we are doing something else and not paying attention.

Our no bite campaing is fairly simple. When he nips, we yell "NO" really lound and clap our hands loudly in his face. He really hates us clapping our hands in his face, and avoids what he knows causes us to do this....most of the time. We do not hit him as we feel that is just going to make him head shy....like he used to be. We worked hard on that and he is now not one bit head shy, and we don't want to undo all our work.

So...when he does something to make us uncomfortable, I.e. Biting....we do something to make him uncomfortable, I.e. Loud shouts and hand clapping.

I also hand feed and Mac never bites. But I think he's a bit pushy, and I would be wiser to not hand feed. (I am not wiser)

Like the loud clapping, if that reallly is aversive and you can do it realliy quickly and it's memorable enough.
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When I am dealing with horses that bite (or very young horses that have not yet learned manners) I want them to feel like the discipline is directly related to the biting, that they directly caused it to happen. Try paying really close attention next time you are with your horse. When you see his head start to come towards you, flick out your elbow and pop him in the jaw. You want him to think that he is running into your elbow. If he does get a hold on your skin and actually bites you, INSTANTLY make him work HARD. Use the end of your lead rope to move his hindquarters, forequarters, back up, whatever you need to do to make him feel really uncomfortable. As has been stated, make it short and hard and unemotional. Then, go back to what you were doing. You want your horse to finish moving and think, "What do I need to do to make sure that doesn't happen again?" After a few times, he will make the connection between the bite and the work.
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