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post #1 of 29 Old 04-04-2012, 01:08 PM Thread Starter
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I have two stallions, Pepper and Cinnamon, Pepper is a very good natured horse, I can pet him brush him and put a halter on him. Cinnamon however, has a mind all his own! The most I can do with him is give him treats and hay, and that's when HE decides. I've had them for 4 years and he still doesn't trust me, how do I gain his trust????
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post #2 of 29 Old 04-04-2012, 01:19 PM
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Your not going to like this but geld them. Sounds like they arnt shown, and you can't even ride them. Why keep them as studs. Then send them to a trainer that can get them to be good geldings.
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post #3 of 29 Old 04-04-2012, 01:21 PM
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I agree if you have no plans for them as stallions then geld them. I suggest getting a trainer to help with the one as well. But you could also do a bit of groundwork on your own with him. Good luck ;)
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post #4 of 29 Old 04-04-2012, 01:23 PM
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It does not seem, from your post, that you have done any actual work with them in the time you have had them - you mention petting, brushing, haltering and feeding treats. What experience do you have with working with horses?
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post #5 of 29 Old 04-04-2012, 01:26 PM
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I agree with above posters. Unless there are very compelling reasons (show record, good pedigree, great confo) they shouldn't be left intact. They will live a happier life and you as well because they will be easier to deal with, typically more calm, less concerns with keeping them and having proper set up for stallions, etc.

I'd get them cut first and then seek outside help to get a handle on them. The situation as is sounds like one that could get very dangerous, very quickly.
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post #6 of 29 Old 04-04-2012, 01:33 PM
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Well OP, since you're only 13 y/o, your parents are responsible for making any decisions about the horses.

As the other posters have stated, those horses need to be gelded and have some training put on them. Otherwise, you're going to get seriously hurt or dead, and those rank, untrained stallions will have only two options once that happens; kill buyer auction or euthing.

If your parents have even the slightest clue about horses, they should know that an ungelded male is not an animal a child should be trying to train.
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post #7 of 29 Old 04-04-2012, 01:34 PM
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To the original poster -
Are you certain they are stallions? Stallions have 2 balls that you can see (in addition to the sheath for that contraption used to pee). If you don't see 2 balls (about the size of tennis balls) then they are most likely geldings.

The bad horse is overdue to be taught manners. Horses are not like dogs - they are big and could seriously hurt you - so when they're young they are (generally) taught manners as well as the normal leading, standing still for fly spray, baths, getting their hooves trimmed, etc.

Ask around and find a good local trainer. Have trainer work on ground manners with horse then work with YOU to teach you how to maintain proper manners. Horses are like children - if you never tell them NO (and mean it) they grow up spoiled and eventually no one wants to be around them.

So work with both horses and a trainer to instaill manners then have trainer teach horse to be ridden and/or drive - but find somethiong useful for then to do - it'll make them and you happier in the long run.
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post #8 of 29 Old 04-04-2012, 02:52 PM Thread Starter
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I am positive they are stallions, I have tried working with him, I almost got a halter on him last year, but over the winter he seems to have stopped trusting me, I have led pepper around with the lead rope and he behaves very well, sometimes it seems like cinnamon is going to come over to let me pet him or something but when I hold out my hand to let him smell he sniffs then walks away. I honestly don't know what happened!
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Are you sure their stallions if so id be making a vet appointment to have them gelded. Sounds like they are in seroius need of training. How old are they? Were exactly are you located in minnesota iam in minnesota and do training.
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post #10 of 29 Old 04-04-2012, 03:13 PM Thread Starter
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I have had 3 different people tell me recently that they are stallions, I'm not sure how old they are exactly, I'd guess around 4-5 years old. I'm not very sure of anything with them except their names( which I gave them) and that they won't purposely hurt me unless I give them a reason to.
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