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        04-04-2012, 03:27 PM
      #11
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by Horseluv    
    I have had 3 different people tell me recently that they are stallions, I'm not sure how old they are exactly, I'd guess around 4-5 years old. I'm not very sure of anything with them except their names( which I gave them) and that they won't purposely hurt me unless I give them a reason to.
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    I wouldnt put it by any horse like that. Without proper training any horse could hurt you in self defense or what they think is. Sound like you horse still have the flight or fight instint. If you don't know anything about them why are they still stallions. They should be gelded.
         
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        04-04-2012, 03:36 PM
      #12
    Foal
    We can't afford to get them gelded at the moment
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        04-04-2012, 03:47 PM
      #13
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    We can't afford to get them gelded at the moment
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    Maybe you should consider selling them before you get seriously hurt stallions can be dangerous. They need to be with someone that can handle them and get them gelded. I don't understand why people buy stallions for kids just really blows my mind its a disaster in the making.
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        04-04-2012, 03:49 PM
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    Sell them both and buy an actual gelding that you can actually ride and won't kill you.

    I don't want to be mean, but what was the actual thought process here? Let's buy TWO untrained animals and let them be stallions? For our 13 year old? Not only is that questionable parenting, but that's downright dangerous. Stallions are not "pets", they are not the Black Stallion, and they have powerful chemicals running through them. They are powerful animals that deserve handlers who can not only train them, but can also deal with their breeding impulses. I have been showing, training, breeding excellent western pleasure horses and I would never even think about owning a stallion, ever. Not for me, not for my children, not on the ranch, period. It's just too dangerous.

    And, it doesn't even sound like you are having any fun! If you can't afford to geld them I highly doubt you can afford a good trainer. So my advice is to sell them as quick as possible and buy a nice tamed gelding instead. The stallion doesn't have "attitude", he is being a stallion and taking control of the herd. If you cannot even halter this horse there is virtually NO WAY of you taking control. Unless you have a way to get him into a round pen, which is still dangerous.
         
        04-04-2012, 04:15 PM
      #15
    Green Broke
    At the moment, neither yourself NOR the horses are benefitting much from this arrangement. Have they been vetted since they were brought home? Did you (your parents) actually ask the vet about the cost of gelding or are you stating it can't be afforded because you aren't able to afford any medical care for them?
         
        04-04-2012, 04:19 PM
      #16
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    Sorry I was so blunt, I still want you to feel welcome at the forum, I'm just worried about you. A solution might be to sell the aggressive stallion in order to geld the one you like? But then you actually have to break it to ride... which is another can of worms... but it's a start.
         
        04-04-2012, 04:35 PM
      #17
    Foal
    Actually, the people we bought them from told us they were gelded. And my dad didn't purposefully buy them, they were at an auction and he just bid to get the bidding going( it kind of back fired)
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        04-04-2012, 04:42 PM
      #18
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    Then id see about taking them back to the auction barn and resell them you can't be having any fun. They arent ridable and no training at all sell them both and get a horse you can ride and have fun. Best of luck.
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        04-05-2012, 02:02 AM
      #19
    Green Broke
    Welcome.

    Well, you are in an interesting fix here, aren't you?

    Horses can and will hurt you, and you do not have to do anything mean at all for that to happen.

    Horses are herd animals, and are constantly fighting for position, by that I mean, there is only one leader, and horses (and all other creatures too for that matter) will kick, bite, run at, and knock into the other horses to determine who will win. And sometimes it is so evenly matched, or horses aren't serious enough about it yet, that it is fairly benign, but that won't last long.

    And although you think you are not doing anything to add to the problems, by treating, brushing, and handfeeding them, you are. And the horse that is walking away from you, or taking hay on his terms? Well he is already telling you that you "are not the boss of me" in horse terms.

    Stallions also can be very bad to bite, and people have gotten killed by a stallion that decided to bite, and those were experienced horsepeople with some age on them. And those were horses in heavy training and being shown too.

    While there are stallions that are kind, those have been handled by horsemen/women who are well versed in horses. Most stallions bear watching at all times.

    The adults in your life need to get these stallions either gelded, or run them through a sale and get shed of them.

    The longer you work around them, the smaller your chances of not getting hurt become.
         
        04-05-2012, 09:51 AM
      #20
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by Horseluv    
    Actually, the people we bought them from told us they were gelded. And my dad didn't purposefully buy them, they were at an auction and he just bid to get the bidding going( it kind of back fired)
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    If I were you I would take them back to the auction. There is one in Verndale MN, this weekend.
         

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