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post #1 of 25 Old 02-15-2011, 02:16 AM Thread Starter
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Horse backing up when mounting?

People are probably going to think I find a lot of faults with my horses with all these threads but anyway. So I have noticed pretty much since I have gotten my new horse he tends to back up when I am trying to mount him. He only does it to me, on the ground he respects me in every way other then this. He also only seems to really do it when I was on him then got off for whatever reason then I am trying to get on again. Since I'm the only person who does that I don't know if he is just seeing it as I got off so I should be staying off. What I do is when he backs up I think well fine you want to back up you can back up. I normally get him to back up for awhile at a good pace. This can sometimes take a couple of goes before he will stand still. I'm wondering am I doing the right thing?

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post #2 of 25 Old 02-15-2011, 02:34 AM
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I think that is one approach, but me personally don't like it.
When the horse doesn't want to back up it can lead to rearing.
My horse used to do the same thing, I resorted to circles, lots of small tight circles he got the idea soon enough :)
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I would think so, but I would give him a chance. So, when he backs up, bring him back into place once and if he backs up again, then do the backing
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^^ That is normally what I do I just thought it might sound like I wasn't consistent or something. If I thought he was going to rear up I would probably do circles instead.

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post #5 of 25 Old 02-15-2011, 05:13 AM
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check tack, try it bareback if you can, etc.

depending on where he's at in his riding, this might work, as soon as he starts backing while your mounting, get on at the same speed you would but as soon as your up there ask him to go forward. his desire to go backward and the pattern he'll establish of "as soon as they're on we go forward" will balance eachother out.

don't do it beyond fixing the problem though, because that'll make the horse go forward when you try to mount him. but in such a case the opposite can be applied in that as soon as you get on you backup.

also try to keep mounting as smooth as possible, and do lots of standing beside your horse on the side you like to mount from.

hope this helps.
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What I do is when he backs up I think well fine you want to back up you can back up.
sadly this will probably cause the problem to worsen, as it quickly and simply teaches the horse that "mounting = backup". it could also be why the problem has persisted. also, because he's already backing and you ask for more/continued backing, he might take this as though you want him to back faster, possibly leading trotting backwards (although unlikely)

this is why linda parelli's philosiphy of "you wanna do that? we're gonna do that! but we're only gonna stop when i say!" is great at amplifying problems.
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^^ He doesn't alwasy do it only sometimes. He has also done when I'm getting on bareback before too. I'll have a go at what your talking about.

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post #8 of 25 Old 02-15-2011, 05:51 AM
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only do it when he does go backwards. and for the sake of good results, when he walks backwards on his own, only ask him WALK forwards, then release and do whatever you were going to do.

i personally, if my horse were to walk backwards on their own accord (when mounting or any other time), would ask politely that my horse trot or lope forwards as it follows the same principle, just gets faster results, but depending on the horses training can be EXTREMELY dangerous. but just walking forwards is a safe and practical way of solving the problem.
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post #9 of 25 Old 02-15-2011, 05:54 AM Thread Starter
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Yeah I would only ask him to walk forward I don't think it would be a good idea to ask him to go any faster. But I think your might work with him.

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along with our dogs Patch and Bear.
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post #10 of 25 Old 02-15-2011, 06:04 AM
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let me know how it goes. works wonders for me.

if it doesnt work, i, as a professional starter/developer part time problem solver, will happily eat my akubra.
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