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        10-25-2013, 08:07 PM
      #11
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by spirit88    
    The agressive part needs to be addressed or he's going to hurt you and bad. Sounds like he doesnt see you as his leader any horse that pins ears and kicks at you has NO RESPECT for you.

    If he doesnt respect you on the ground he's not going to respect you under saddle. I will not tolerate any horse kicking at me or pinning ears at me peroid.

    He also should have way more turnout 2 hours 30min isnt enough. Horses are herd animals and need to be with other horses. Don't care if pervious owner kept him that way doesnt mean its right.
    Pretty much my exact thoughts too.
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        10-25-2013, 08:10 PM
      #12
    Started
    Friendly & safe aren't mutually exclusive states!

    If that means being 50 yards away & crouching on the ground if you sense the horse is uncomfortable with your height, that's what you have to do. That shows you're sensitive to the horse; you're friendly. If it means waiting there with infinite patience till the horse finally steals a curious look at you from the position of hiney to you & head over the fence, then REWARDING that by retreating, rather than approaching, which ruins it with pressure, then that's what you have to do.

    This type of thing is what OP might have to do to get horse DEEPLY OK INSIDE again. DEEPLY OK INSIDE & the human being the deeply ok "spot" is the goal.
         
        10-25-2013, 08:22 PM
      #13
    Trained
    ^^ Sorry-I don't think I would be crouching anywhere NEAR a horse that has me in his sights, unless there was a wall or a fence between us. But, then I am not a subscriber to those who go read in the pasture.
         
        10-25-2013, 08:24 PM
      #14
    Foal
    Feed update...forgot about that.

    He is getting regular hay and a scoop (about 2 lbs) of grains twice a day...morning and afternoon. Plenty of hay..has usually always hay left when I leave in the eve.

    He has also gained weight and muscle mass since I have had him
         
        10-25-2013, 08:37 PM
      #15
    Started
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    Originally Posted by franknbeans    
    ^^ Sorry-I don't think I would be crouching anywhere NEAR a horse that has me in his sights, unless there was a wall or a fence between us. But, then I am not a subscriber to those who go read in the pasture.
    The scenario I described was: 50 yards away, when horse is wanting to get away from you, head over the fence. Come on, you guys know this stuff.
         
        10-25-2013, 09:00 PM
      #16
    Started
    I really think you need to have some major diagnostics done here ASAP.

    Could be something going on in brain, tumor, infection.

    Could be muscle tear someplace too.

    But this is not normal at all.

    I will add....is there any chance at all that someone is teasing this horse, when you are not around??? Who cares for him? Is someone else riding him?

    If this horse is NOT where you are only one working with him? I would be wondering if someone is taking him out and abusing him.

    But get more tests done I think is important.

    Also. Who was the vet for this horse before you bought him? He could have had injections or something to manage pain and those are now worn off.
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        10-25-2013, 09:33 PM
      #17
    Foal
    Thanks for all the input...really appreciate the feedback.

    Is being kept in a Hunter/Jumper barn...food facilities, professionally managed/ About 60 horses are boarded there. I would think there is no chance that someone is abusing him.

    I checked prior vet...no known issues.
         
        10-25-2013, 09:41 PM
      #18
    Banned
    Just because its a professionally run hunter jumper barn doesnt mean someone isnt harrasing your horse. Iv boarded horses before it happens in the best of barns.
         
        10-26-2013, 01:24 AM
      #19
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    Originally Posted by Northern    
    The scenario I described was: 50 yards away, when horse is wanting to get away from you, head over the fence. Come on, you guys know this stuff.
    Nope don't know that stuff, and think it's terrible advise. You have an aggressive horse, and you are suggesting someone gets on the ground behind it?

    Once your horse vet checks out, assuming all is ok, it needs a come to Jesus meeting.
         
        10-26-2013, 01:49 AM
      #20
    Started
    Has his feed changed much? If he has gained weight/muscle I feel it would and it also goes into his work... I agree it sounds like he might be worked too much.. I would not try to undo years of training in 3 months. I would cut back his training and work on making it relaxed. Do you handle him other than to train? Have you had your own horse before? Are you working with a trainer?
    A big question is- is he like this, even if less severe, with anyone else?
    My guess is his brain is fried and there is a mental aspect plus being pumped full of food and probably all exacerbated by something physical.
    I definitely would do a thorough vet exam too. Wait on the tests..Lyme would be good too, though I don't know how common it is in your area. Hormone imbalances or anything that might make him nutty OR in pain and acting nutty.
    Since it sounds like the old trainer was honest with you maybe contact him/her explain the issues and see if there is any insight, or something you don't know.
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