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        10-30-2013, 10:28 AM
      #61
    Green Broke
    Honestly I see it as pain somewhere. When my horse when she turns away from me there is something wrong. When I find out what it is and she's feeling good the turning away disappears. You need to dig deeper. Ulcers?
         
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        10-30-2013, 10:33 AM
      #62
    Started
    Did you have him checked by a farrier? Does he run and play when he's in the pasture/paddock? I was reading a similar story and it turned out that the horse had a bruise in his hoof.
         
        10-30-2013, 08:32 PM
      #63
    Started
    When I use caps, it's for emphasis, it's not yelling, & zillions of others use caps likewise, in their posts, so please don't pick.

    Amazing that y'all are indirectly criticizing Ray Hunt & Klaus Hempfling for crouching when they sensed it'd take pressure off the horse (Ray got on his knees, to be exact)! Come to think of it, I also saw Leslie Desmond, Bill Dorrance's student, get on hands & knees with a particular horse, in a clinic of hers, & she's certainly no slouch in the horsemanship department.

    I know that many here have no prob bashing Parelli, but Ray & Klaus are so well-respected by so many, including Parelli bashers. That goes for Buck Brannaman, too, but he learned a lot from Ray & so if Ray's getting on his knees that time was nonsense, it begs the question, "What else of Ray's was nonsense?", & "What then, of Buck's is nonsense?"

    Maybe it's just that Hallowe'en is tomorrow.
         
        10-30-2013, 09:08 PM
      #64
    Trained
    One persons emphasis is another's shouting.

    Watching a trainer do something is one thing, taking that and giving it as advice on the internet is something else.

    I had a groundwork clinic with a lady who is/was big into Parelli, but I don't feel her clinic was big on Parelli teaching, but it was big on timing, personal space, timing, respect, timing.

    I found it very useful, and two comments were heard more than any others over the weekend, "don't annoy him, HIT him, and "rip his face off"

    Both sound horrific said in cold blood here, and not advice I would pass on, but to see what she meant by those statements, more importantly reading the horse and timing those actions I learned a great deal.

    Again giving advice over the internet is worrying, we have only the ops interpretation of the horse, but you know when you are saying one thing and the rest of the world is saying something else, shouting, emphasis and repitition doesn't make your message any more true.
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        10-31-2013, 09:18 PM
      #65
    Started
    If you insist upon reading my caps as yelling, even though I explained that it wasn't, that's not my problem.

    If you insist upon accusing me of telling OP to crouch in front of an attacking horse/do something dangerous with his horse, that's not my problem.

    OP can read my posts all by himself, since he's a grown man, so I'm finished replying to your false accusations.
         
        10-31-2013, 10:35 PM
      #66
    Trained
    If the majority of people reading your words are coming to the same conclusion you may want to consider how you are putting the message over. We are telling you how we perceive your message, not making false accusations.
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        11-01-2013, 06:23 AM
      #67
    Yearling
    I thought I will learn something more from this thread, but just saw, that I can apply my knowledge from my uni classes - there are many many communication problems here, and it all starts with the fact that we are all typing, not having a conversation in person, as vocal communication has many aspects of how to make it understandable, but written is very limited..
         

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