Horse Being a Brat on the Lunge

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        03-24-2014, 07:03 PM
    Horse Being a Brat on the Lunge

    Today I tried to lunge charlie, and I have been for the past few days and he will go around the circle like one or twice if im lucky then turn in to face me and stop. I turn him out again and crack the whip when he seems like he's about to stop but he just ignores it and turns into come towards me again. Today he did one circle and stopped, then twice doing half a circle and stopping with his ears back he calmly walks up and bites the crap out of my forearm I mean HARD. He has never done that before! I have a huge hideous bruise about the size of a tennis ball forming on my arm now. I am not sure if I am doing this lungeing thing wrong or if Charlie doesn't understand?

    I have tried to lead him in a circle a few times and let some slack out to make him eventually get out into a circle at a walk, but he insists on staying right next to me. What should I do? I popped him HARD on the shoulder after he bit me, I'm not going to let him develop a biting habit!
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        03-24-2014, 07:10 PM
    Coming to you and biting is, in my opionion, an "attack". But, when you're not reacting correctly untill he's already next to you, you're already too late. When he only looks like he's got the intention of coming towards you, immediatly chase him away (I hope this is proper English). This isn't the behaviour you would like to see on a horse, and it could develop in a serious (dangerous) problem.
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        03-24-2014, 07:21 PM
    He will like stop and turn towards me, the second he does that what should I do? He puts his ears back when he is being lunged..not sure if its his concentration face or what.. should I chase him away or pop him with the whip?
        03-24-2014, 07:24 PM
    When he seems to be slowing down like he is going to turn in, crack the whip. If he doesn't react and keep moving pop him with it on the butt. Do not allow him to come in or stop until you ask him too. He will have to learn what you are asking, but try to make it as clear as possible.
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        03-24-2014, 07:35 PM
    Originally Posted by CrossCountry    
    When he seems to be slowing down like he is going to turn in, crack the whip. If he doesn't react and keep moving pop him with it on the butt. Do not allow him to come in or stop until you ask him too. He will have to learn what you are asking, but try to make it as clear as possible.
    should I like yell or run at him or anything?
        03-24-2014, 07:53 PM
    Wave your hands and click/kiss, but be careful not to be kicked. (Not sure if he kicks or not, but you can never be too careful.)
        03-24-2014, 08:45 PM
    Originally Posted by CrossCountry    
    Wave your hands and click/kiss, but be careful not to be kicked. (Not sure if he kicks or not, but you can never be too careful.)
    Lately.. I feel like he could possibly kick since he's being aggressive! Not sure what is causing it!
        03-24-2014, 09:00 PM
    Where are you positioned when you are asking your horse to go around?What head gear is he wearing?Is he new to lunging?How much line do you have him out on?Just a few questions to try see more what is going on
    When he slows down or is looking like he's going to try to do something you haven't asked for get after him!!push him forward,make him know you mean business But this is only all good if you are asking him to lunge correctly to begin with,if you aren't then can turn from bad to worse
    Posting a video could help show the problems & we can advise on how to fix better
        03-24-2014, 10:20 PM
    I hope you got after him so hard that he thought he was going to die after he bit you!!!!!! If not, well you can't blame him for the aggression because you taught him that you will stop 'annoying' him if he attacks you.

    Regarding lunging - first things first. Do you actually know how to lunge (not just the assumption that you put the horse on a long rope and run it around in circles by cracking a whip behind it)? And has your horse been lunged? Are you lunging in a round yard? What gear are you lunging off (bridle, halter, cavesson etc)? How are you attaching the lunge rein (ie directly to the bit?), what is your purpose for lunging (no point lunging just because you feel like it), does your horse understand voice commands for walk, trot and canter - and are you using them?

    Lunging is FAR more complex than running a horse in a circle and hoping not to get kicked. The aggression I suspect is a respect issue that is only now rearing it's ugly head because you are putting pressure on the horse by driving it. I love to lunge a horse before I ride just to be able to gauge its reactions.
    I put my breaker onto some 10m circles then ran him out down the long side into medium trot and turning back onto a 10m circle - first time running next to him and driving him up, turns his haunches towards me and humps. He copped a whip across the backside and a banshee running at him sending him into canter.
    He doesn't even consider turning his haunches at me now - get after them properly once, and they shouldn't do it again.
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        03-24-2014, 10:45 PM
    I would have to agree that the horse has realized that you may not know as much about lunging as you think. It's quite possible that you are blocking his forward movement by your body position, and at the same time whipping the aire to tell him to go forward. The mixed signals are enough to drive any horse crazy. He reacts by stopping , either becuae he thinks that what your body is telling him to do, or becuase he is fed up, and when you become emotional, with the whip, so does he, and he bites.

    I cannot blame you if you do not know how to lunge. No one is born knowing this. You need to ask someone to help you. It's as simple as that. We cannot really help you that much with written word, and to flail around without assistance will only firm up this response from him so that he gets harder and harder, and more dangerous .

    So, please ask someone to help you soon, ok? You'll learn a lot and I bet you won't be sorry.
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    bite, help needed, lunge

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