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post #1 of 18 Old 11-24-2008, 07:16 AM Thread Starter
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Horse bucks when going into canter

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When I'm trying to move my paint into lope (squeeze with inner leg more in, outer leg little behind) when it's TIME for it (after 30 mins at least of work) she gives a good buck and sometime moves into pretty nice lope or sometime refuses to go into lope and just keep trotting. Saddle does NOT hurt her. She tries to canter from trot when she's fresh (first 10 mins or so of trotting) and cantering with saddle (and me ) certainly doesn't irritate her. I have a feeling that she's tired by the time I want to lope, and just don't want to do it (she also pins her ears somewhat when asked). She's still young too (passed 4 years old). How to deal with this buck and refusal to canter? Can be the reason for the buck that she tries to balance herself (that's what mom is saying when watching me)?
BTW, she's very quiet on lunge (not like my other one).
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post #2 of 18 Old 11-24-2008, 07:37 AM
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I know you said the saddle fits, but it still sounds to be an equiptment issue, and it may have other reasons other than her being a monsterbrat. I would get her saddle fitted (I have become a HUGE advocate of that of late) and if you round pen, you could work with her on her canter without getting bucked off.

Also, if she is ear pinning that isn't a sign she is tired, it is a sign she is either in pain, or irrated, but that isn't a sign of tired. If there is no OTHER behavior issue with the horse, and she moves out in a trot for you ok, then it may be a pain issue, and not from the saddle. Some horses need the chiropractor thing, I have seen that work with some horses with riding issues.

Do you ever lunge or round pen her and get her to canter from the ground on command? I try to conquer most problems from the ground, I am too old to be getting bucked off.

Do you warm her up before you ride? Have you done any cavaletti with her to help you both work on spacing?

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post #3 of 18 Old 11-24-2008, 07:45 AM
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My April did that bucking thing. She wasnt being rubbed by the saddle, and she would be just fine saddled in the round pen. When i would ask for the lope I would hold her back to ensure collection and she would fight me on that (not sure if that made sense...lol) Anyways everytime she would kick out/buck, I would but her through a bunch of circles, turns... made her work hard. Then I would settle, ask again, and repeat. It would take a few of these to get her to stop... and over time of riding she has stopped doing it. April is 5 and was basically started at 3-4 years so she still has some issues with testing me. Just remember that if you start to get frusterated go back to a walk/trot till you get relaxed and try again.


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Actually I have been having this same problem with my horse. He used to only buck once and only occasionally when I would ask him to lope but on saturday sometimes he would buck 5 or more times before he would settle and then the next time he would just move into a nice lope with no problems. I know its not the saddle cause I know my horse and he is just having a problem with me being the one to tell him what to do. I don't know why your horse is doing it but with my horse I know its just an attitude thing. Which is something that I have to work on with him.
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I agree, the first thing I would look at is a chiropractic adjustment. If it's not the problem your only out a few bucks, ( no pun intended).

If she's good, then I would really pay attention to my position is the saddle, she may be trying to balance herself and you could be in her way, especially if she canters on a lunge line quietly.

Maybe have someone video you, balance issues really come to light once you see yourself on a screen.
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Thank you All!!

I do NOT think it's a pain or saddle issue. Because if I ask her to lope when she's fresh she's doing it without any bucking (in fact it's hard to keep her FROM going into lope when I just start riding). The problem is it's not good to start with the lope, so I walk/trot quite enough before doing some lope. As long as she's more on tired side she refuses to do that. May be it's just an attitude. She's also much more willing to canter when we go to the big arena (the one I'm using in winter is my neighbor's one and it's pretty small). May be the confinement issue?
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If she's good, then I would really pay attention to my position is the saddle, she may be trying to balance herself and you could be in her way, especially if she canters on a lunge line quietly.
That's a great advice! I'll ask someone to take some pics to see how lope with me on her looks like. I know I do lean forward sometime...
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My stud did that for the longest time when he was tired. Just push her into in and make sure you never let her stop on her terms, your term only. How ofter do you ride her? Is she is good condiiton?
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I was going to add as well, if your noticing that her ears are pinned your looking at her head. Even the slightest shift can unbalance a horse, especially a younger one.

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Thanks, folks! Yes, I'm sure it's more about me than about her. May be I have to switch back to western saddle for while (I'm not really used to english saddle). Another thing to consider I havn't been really working/loping her for about month (2 weeks of bad weather, and for 2 weeks before that I went to the park without real work just trying to catch nice weather and relax). So may be she's pretty unfit at this point.
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