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        11-24-2012, 08:01 AM
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    Trained
    Soreness aside, I wonder if it's rider issues. Who exactly has had her bucking before - are they good riders? And by good, I mean they leave the horse an escape route, not jamming her up, bouncing around on her back, nagging her with aids, jabbing her mouth etc.
    The other thought, is that she knows the owner won't accept bucking as an evasive behaviour. But she could have tried it on with someone else, who got a fright and allowed it to happen, and now she uses it as an evasion regularly.
         
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        11-24-2012, 08:50 AM
      #12
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    Why is the actual owner letting you mess with their horse?

    I think you should leave the horse alone until you can work WITH the owner that can ride the horse and does not have problems. Does the actual owner even know people have been trying to ride this horse and failing? No horse EVER misbehaves because " no one comes to see them". They misbehave because of bad handling and riding or because they lack training.

    Bad handling and riding is much worse than no handling at all. If people continue to TRY to ride this horse and fail, it will become so spoiled that the actual owner will start having problems with it.

    I think you and others should leave this horse completely alone until you can work with the owner or make arrangements to work with someone that is an actual good trainer.
         
        11-24-2012, 11:58 AM
      #13
    Foal
    Uhm because the horse is for sale... and been for sale for awhile. I know what im doing I've been around horses for 8 years...and yes the owner knows... and its not a big deal... and I obviously said the horse doesn't buck with me either... so its obviously not that im a bad trainer but thanks for implying that:)
         
        11-24-2012, 03:35 PM
      #14
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    Uhm because the horse is for sale... and been for sale for awhile. I know what im doing I've been around horses for 8 years...and yes the owner knows... and its not a big deal... and I obviously said the horse doesn't buck with me either... so its obviously not that im a bad trainer but thanks for implying that:)
    None of this info was posted before. You did say that you wanted to work with the horse a little longer BEFORE riding it. That implies you haven't ridden the horse yet. So of course you haven't been bucked.

    Not having all the details up front, we do have to assume somethings. From your original post, it does sound like you are just working with the horse on your own and possibly without the owners knowledge.

    Also, we didn't know that you are a trainer or what your experience is. It just sounded like you were working with the horse because it doesn't get any attention. We are just trying to help and offer suggestions. There's no need to respond in a snotty way, which I felt was your last post.
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        11-24-2012, 03:46 PM
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    8 years really isn't a long time around horses to know how to identify a problem and fix it on your own. Do what the others have said and check the saddle fit as well as watch the owner ride to see why the horse doesn't buck with her since this sounds more like it has to do with different riding styles.
         
        11-24-2012, 05:57 PM
      #16
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    Since the horse doesn't buck for the owner (or you as you say), it could just be that the horse needs a confident and experienced rider. When people got to see a horse that's for sale, they are a little apprehensive or even nervous. The horse can sense that. They will test that rider. Basically, to see if the rider is worthy enough to ride. Once the rider can establish or show the horse that they can be in charge, the horse quits it's antics.

    Edit: BTW, this is only from 6 years experience. I do understand a lot about their behaviors but I won't say I know it all.
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