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post #11 of 24 Old 06-21-2012, 09:22 PM
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My girl hates the loose ring. She does better in an eggbutt french link, but I'm going to try a mullen mouth on her soon.
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post #12 of 24 Old 06-21-2012, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TrojanCowgirl View Post
Do french links lay flatter in a horse's mouth? Are they generally more comfortable? I've never used one and don't venture out to much with bits.
French link or a two jointed bit doesn't have the crackerjack effect on the palate or tongue like a snaffle. I'm not sure why my mare can't use one as I don't really care since a different bit works. But each horse is different in what they will be best in.
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post #13 of 24 Old 06-21-2012, 11:34 PM
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It is not at all unusual for a horse to detest a jointed bit, particularly a jointed snaffle. Some horse respond much better to a curb with a wide or high port that gives them a lot more 'tongue relief'.

It is usually the mouthpiece more than the style of rings or the type of shanks on a curb bit. I greatly prefer a curb bit with loose shanks that swivel.

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My boy hates any bit with one break in it. Tom thumb, simple snaffle, etc. He'll toss his head, throw his head up, avoid the bit, and generally be unhappy and uncooperative. I put him in a french link and he stopped all that. I didn't train it out, I just put a different bit in his mouth and he quit. I do think some horses just don't like how the single broken bits feel, or they hit their palate, or something. I'll stick with either solid mouth pieces or double jointed ones in my boy's future, easier to do that then bother fighting about something we don't have to.
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post #15 of 24 Old 06-21-2012, 11:45 PM
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My haflinger hates single-jointed snaffles and will moderately tolerate a french-lin but still isn't overly happy. He does well with a curb (or even kimberwicke) with a low port or an arched mullen mouth. His favorite so far is a curb with a roller.

We suspect its a combination of a fat tongue and a low palette.

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post #16 of 24 Old 06-22-2012, 12:09 AM
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Drifter hates snaffles. Could not figure out why. Did some experimenting, and found out he only likes bits with tongue relief. Weird. Don't ask me why, because I don't know. But my point is that yes, its very normal for a horse to not like a certain type of bit. Do some experimenting :)
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post #17 of 24 Old 06-22-2012, 10:12 AM
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My sister's QH doesn't like broken mouthpieces; he just seems to find them uncomfortable and irritating. He's happiest in a medium-length shank curb with a low port and roller for western, and a low port kimberwicke for English. I'd love to get my hands on a mullen mouth snaffle and try him in it, to find out if it's the snaffle action or the broken mouth that he objects to. Scout is quite happy in his single-jointed eggbutt.

Horses are all individuals; they have conformational differences and comfort preferences just like people. I love the earlier flip-flops analogy. There are so many bit options and mouth/cheek/leverage combinations out there that there's usually something for every horse. By the same token, you'll probably run into something that just doesn't "do it" if you experiment enough. If your horse is telling you that his bit is uncomfortable for him, no matter what kind of bit you're using, it's time for a change.

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post #18 of 24 Old 06-22-2012, 10:14 AM
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Just preference. My boy tolerated a snaffle but he prefers his french link.

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post #19 of 24 Old 06-22-2012, 10:20 AM
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My mare just holds her mouth open when I but the bit in and stretches her neck out and downward. Anybody know why I get this reaction? I know it's probably uncomfortable but is it possible to identify where she's feeling the discomfort when she does this?

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post #20 of 24 Old 06-22-2012, 10:32 AM
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Something like this may work well. This is my favorite snaffle. It has independent side action, is contoured for the mouth, has lots of tongue room & it doesn't collapse on itself. This one pictured is more of a Western style but it comes in an English style too.
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