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    04-10-2012, 07:22 PM
  #1
Foal
Horse has no respect for jumps.

I am JUST starting jumping, as is my horse. I want to make this a positive experience for her .. but she is making it difficult. She jumps the small solid log in my woods perfectly. However I know a solid jump can be dangerous, so I've been trying to do some work with small cross rails. The problem is she completely refuses to go over. She got spooked when she bent a pvc pipe with her hoof (hence, she had no respect for the object) and now TOTALLY refuses to go over anything taller then about a foot. I've tried doing ground work with her. Very small cross rails (No bigger than maybe 8 in.) but she constantly knocks them down and seems to not care. She knocks down anything bigger than a small raised trotting poll. I know she is not in pain. I'm not sure if she is being stubborn or is afraid. I've even tried using carrots! I realize I could practice with small squares of hay, but she won't jump them and I don't have a supply I can waste. How can I get her to go over, and not knock them down? I don't want her to be scared, but its making it hard for me to learn. Please help me before I seriously just give up on jumping!
     
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    04-10-2012, 07:27 PM
  #2
Foal
For reference, this is the highest she'll go- and she knocks it down EVERY time. (Shes walking granted.. she refuses trotting or cantering. & Usually anytime I'm on her frankly) Stuff in the background are the remains of different jumps I've tried. Even if I can't get her to jump, I still want her to get over this fear. For sake of trotting polls and trail classes. Its ridiculous.

(nevermind.. It won't upload.)
     
    04-10-2012, 07:29 PM
  #3
Yearling
My paint doesnt take PVC pipes seriously, I suggest nice thick wooden poles. My paint hit them once like he always did the PVC and has been picking his feet up since :) Its not going to break their ankles but its not comfortabe.

He would jump where all this feet would graz the pvc pipe and maybe knock it down with his back feet, because pvc doesn't hurt and its light so why should he put effort into jumping over it when he can just go through it?

Also really drive her up to them, when schooling I actually tell my horse "Get it Rem, get it!" when approaching a jump and it gets him pumped up and locked on target.
     
    04-10-2012, 07:31 PM
  #4
Foal
True. I just wish she'd get over it. Its ridiculous. I also kinda have to make do with what I have. I can try to scavenge some wooden polls, but I'm the one who pays for my horse stuff and my allowance is really stretched right now.
     
    04-10-2012, 07:35 PM
  #5
Yearling
One thing (which is super hard for me and my paint) is we are doing lots of canter then stop on hind, canter stop and just really trying to get him on his back legs, and getting him to really push from behind when I ask instead off falling foward for speed, if that makes since.

If you can getting her moving out to the jump and get her set up on her hind feet she will be better positioned for a clear jump.

Easier said then done! I am not a professional this is what me and my horse are working on this summer is our first time also and we plan on showing!
Don't give up!
     
    04-10-2012, 07:43 PM
  #6
Foal
I'll defiantly try that! Any other ideas for getting her relaxed jumping?
     
    04-10-2012, 07:48 PM
  #7
Yearling
I like to free lunge over jumps, especially because my gelding is still trying to figure out where his hooves are supposed to be going lol

I find they are usually more relaxed jumping free lunging then on a line, maybe because they just feel better about figuring it out then what your doing on the other end.

You can set her up a nice jump and make like a shoot thing, more jumps or a line that guides her to the jump. And lots of praise!

What will also help is not making it a big deal for her (not that you are) Go over a jump and if she is kind o nervous or something ride off somewhere for a little bit then jump something again etc.
     
    04-10-2012, 08:59 PM
  #8
Super Moderator
To be honest, I am remembering the video you posted of your first jumping session with this mare and there was some mouth bopping going on. I mean you don't have a stable jumping seat yet, so naturally, you bopped the mare in the mouth a bit there. After a bit, this too can make a horse hesitant to jump with you on it's back.

I would go back to free lunging her a bit over some jumps, and maybe you'll have a chance to get a few lesson for yourself on jumping. Jumping has a technique to it that takes time and instruction to learn. Ask anyone who jumps regularly and they will tell you how long they have worked to develop an strong seat and independent hands.

I am not trying to dis you, only to say that your horse isn't lacking respect for the jump, I think she is demonstrating self preservation skills, to be honest. Horses are really good at that.
     
    04-10-2012, 09:14 PM
  #9
Foal
I figured that was an underlying reason too, but I just brushed it off and figured she was spooked. It makes sense when I think about it though. I didn't mean to bump her mouth, I guess I just need to exaggerate my release. I know she CAN jump, I just never thought it was me preventing her from doing it :(
     
    04-10-2012, 11:58 PM
  #10
Super Moderator
I don't know if it's the only reason, but it could be something to consider.
I am not good at jumping. I manage small logs, but sometimes I accidently bump my horse in the mouth. If I did it a lot, one after the other, my horse would get smart and start refusing the jump. But, I only ever jump here and there on the trail and I just throw my reins pretty far forward. But , often I am in a western saddle.

Your mare is cute and seems a willing sort. Try to make it fun for her. Like mix it up with some runs, or if you have a riding buddy, "chase" each other over the jump.
     

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