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post #1 of 7 Old 06-16-2013, 11:58 AM Thread Starter
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Question horse kicking at other horses while riding

I just got this TWH gelding back in Feb from a man I trust dearly on horses. I have bought a total of 3 awesome animals from him. This horse is a former 4yr 2 state champion in flatshod and comes to me as a 9yr old from having been on a farm with cows ridden by the farmers daughter. He is an awesome animal and I have enjoyed him from the start. Just what I like, forward moving, not spooky, great personality, seasoned horse. But....I am now having an issue with him kicking at other horses while I am riding him on the trails. And it comes out of nowhere, no time to react although now I really watch for it, but not even a ear flicker to tell. According to the man I bought him from, he never did this before nor while he had him prior to me bringing him to the farm and he rode him on about 6 trailrides...why would this horse start this all of the sudden and how can I get him to stop?
He could not have possibly done this in the showring and I do trust this man I got him from (who is like a father to me) when he tells me the horse did not do that prior to me getting him.
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post #2 of 7 Old 06-16-2013, 12:50 PM
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I'll put money on the most probably cause being that the horse doesn't trust you as the herd leader and you haven't corrected him for kicking.

I had a mare that was pushy on the ground with everyone but me. I was the only handler that made her walk with me, move what I wanted her to move, and she stood when I told her to stand. She still kicked at first, and I purpously put her in the position where I knew she'd kick, and when she did, I'd take the whip to her ass and spin her in tight circles. We did that for a week and she has never kicked since.
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post #3 of 7 Old 06-16-2013, 12:50 PM
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He would give a warning in that he would have to tense and break a stride which you should feel.
Even if you do not feel it when he kicks out give him a darn good one two three with a whip leaving him looking like a sergeant with three stripes.
He wil not do it again.
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post #4 of 7 Old 06-16-2013, 05:25 PM
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Kicking at other horses is unacceptable. When he does that he needs to feel like the world is ending. Tear his butt up. Its a case of his agenda over yours. I would go after him with a whip very aggressively and circle him tightly at the same time if he even pinned his ears and tell him that is unnacceptable.
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He tried it once and you did not try to kill him, so it is just back to my old saying.

"The wost behavior that you accept is the best behavior you have any right to expect!" Whatever you accept is what you are training a horse to do!"

You accepted it the first time so it has become his new 'regular behavior'.

We always ride with big, heavy split reins -- 7-8 feet long, made of heavy harness leather and heavily oiled. Any horse we ride will only try to kick once. They feel the heavy ends of those reins with a good spanking using an 'over and under' technique.

Then, when they get home, I will lead several horses off of them in the arena where I can turn a horse loose and concentrate on spanking the horse I am riding if they do so much as make a threatening move. Every horse we ride will let anyone lead any other horse from their backs and never flick an ear back and never let any other horse bother them on the trail, in a trailer (all horses just get tied to the left side of a stock trailer).
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post #6 of 7 Old 06-16-2013, 08:23 PM
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Horses mostly kick defensively, rarely aggressively, so the most likely thing that's happening is that your horse feels defensive when other horses get too close. The solution that I learned from Buck Brannaman and have successfully employed is to 'jump him out' when he thinks about kicking. By which I mean "jump him forward". You could also do something else, it doesn't really matter, but putting distance between your horse and the one he wants to kick is a good idea. Anything to get him thinking about doing something other than kicking will work. Make him move, in other words. Do it with good timing. Remember - he has to slow down before he can zero in on the target.
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post #7 of 7 Old 07-03-2013, 02:21 PM
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Although I agree that jumping forward would stop a horse kicking out but, what if you are in close proximity to a horse in front of you?
I know that when out Fox Hunting, the field often gets suddenly stopped in a narrow area so jumping a horse forward would not be the answer and I would, in those circumstances considered it to be downright dangerous.
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