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post #1 of 7 Old 10-20-2008, 07:13 AM Thread Starter
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Horse kicks out on trail

Well.... I always had this problem with my qh. Whenever I ride side-by-side with someone on trot or lope she finds a moment to kick the other horse. I can NOT catch the moment as she gives no warning (she's extremely smart): pinning ears and good kick on side on speed go in same time. She's certainly just shows her dominance, and she does it to ANY horse (even the one she seems to really like in any other situation) if she can catch the moment. She also knows when I watch out her so she always picks time when I'm concentrated on something else. Anyway... Any ideas to deal with it except using the red ribbon on tail?

The problem is people (especially with dominant horses) usually don't believe she can do it, so they are pretty careless about the situation. And YES, I know it's my (my horse's) problem, not those people, but it's hard to manage when they try to speed up or go side-by-side.
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Kitten, until you have it under control, you need to use the red ribbon - someone can get hurt if they are not aware of the problem and even if they are.

What I've done on horses like that is to carry a riding crop and use it on the rump as fast as I can when the incident occurs. The more entrenched she is in the habit the longer it will take to correct it. When you do swat her, be prepared for her to lunge forward. It's going to take consistency for you to correct the problem. If you do it only some of the time, you will only make it harder or impossible to correct it for good.

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Thanks, iride. Yes, I know about the ribbon, of course. I was thinking about using the crop although my biggest concern she may go into bucking if I use it and will just beat another horse up badly on her way .
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I was thinking about using the crop although my biggest concern she may go into bucking if I use it and will just beat another horse up badly on her way .
That is a real concern. Try giving her a lot of leg, pulling her head around and turning her in a very tight circle one way then another a time or two until she learns to associate the extra work with her kicking.

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Thanks, iride. Yes, I know about the ribbon, of course. I was thinking about using the crop although my biggest concern she may go into bucking if I use it and will just beat another horse up badly on her way .
Definitely keep the ribbon and if you can work with someone that knows you and the horse, see if you can work together. That way there is only the two horses and hopefully your buddy will be able to get out of the way quickly. Definitely turn her head toward the kick to make her face the direction she's kicking. As for no warning, I know it can be quick, but sometimes there's a tail swish or a change of balance right before that you may be able to pick up on if you try to look for it. If you can, that's the time to turn her and scold.
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I used to exercise a horse that would kick out like that...I rode her with a red tail ribbon and was ever watchful of other riders around me. I was paid to condition her, not to train her, so I did not correct her. That said, I did not allow her to kick but would simply back her off the trail or face her so that her rear was away from approaching riders, allowing them to ride safely past.
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Thanks, folks!
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