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    02-02-2012, 12:24 AM
Horse kicks when being mounted?

Hey riders, so I have a problem with my horse that is starting to become bad, and could potentially be very dangerous to both me and other riders.

So my horse has a lot of flaws that have to do with tacking up. These are things I can deal with because for the most part, they are not too bad and he is getting better with them. One of his biggest (and most annoying) problems is anything associated with mounting: The biggest thing is that he won't stand still - he will try to do anything he can to NOT be mounted. Since a mounting block is necessary for me, he doesn't want to stand for it. I have resorted to having him against a wall and another person holding him while I try to hop up.

But lately, he has resorted to kicking!!! Yes, this little s*** will kick out with his left hind foot while I'm trying to get on his back. Not only does this make me nervous, but it makes me angry!! The fact that he doesn't want me on his back so much that he will resort to kicking me makes me very upset. It doesn't happen every time but has happened more than four times. And don't get me wrong, I don't just stand there and say "please don't do that.." he gets a super loud "no ransom!!!!!!!!" and a few smacks. This only seems to happen when we are not having lessons *surprising* so my coach has never been around to see it. And I feel like when I tell her, she thinks I am over exaggerating. Next time I see her, I will talk to her again and ask her what I should do?? But for now, I would like to know your opinions..

I would really prefer if you didn't say anything about how I should take lessons, get somebody more experienced to ride him, etc because that is really not helpful..I have common sense.

Anyways, I'm not going to take care of this on my own and do what somebody online tells me to do, I just want your opinion. I will be talking to my coach soon to get some help with this as it worries me I could get injured or he could take it farther.

Also, he really is a good horse besides these flaws, I'm pretty angry at him right now so I'm not going to talk about the reasons I love him but at this moment, once you get on his back..he really is a good boy and does what you ask him to.

Thanks so much! If you read it all, you are awesome!
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    02-02-2012, 12:29 AM
I do believe that your horse is in pain. You could have an ill-fitting saddle, or he could have chronic back pain. Don't be angry at him, because this is most likely triggered from pain/discomfort. I'd recommend getting a horse chiropractor to look at him, as well as perhaps a vet. A professional saddle-fitter may also be in order, though my best guess is that he just has chronic back pain.

Good luck, and tell us how it goes! :)
    02-02-2012, 12:31 AM
Kicking is kicking is kicking is kicking. Cure a kicker or can him, hold a whip and let him know what happens to horses that kick. Great you have a helper. After the correction for the kicking. Make him stand at the block, the nano second he moves, stop mounting, get down & move him back to where you had him, repeat until he stands, even if it takes all day.
    02-02-2012, 12:32 AM
I would vote serious saddle issues. Not to be rude but you don't have many responses here because you want someone to spend their time giving you an opinion and then say openly that you aren't going to take it. That's not fair.
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    02-02-2012, 12:32 AM
Have you checked for any kind of pain? That could be a huge sign that something isn't right and he's trying to tell you that something hurts.

I wouldn't consider giving you behavioral advice before you've checked everything.
    02-02-2012, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by WesternBella    
Anyways, I'm not going to take care of this on my own and do what somebody online tells me to do, I just want your opinion.
Ok, since you just flat-out stated you won't be using any advice given, there's absolutely no point in telling you anything.

Perhaps mental telepathy? Bet you haven't tried that yet.
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    02-02-2012, 12:37 AM
Yes, the thought popped into mind that pain may be involved with the situation, I made sure that there was nothing on the saddle pad that was poking him or he didn't have any kinds of sores. Of course I can't check for anything you have mentioned since I'm not a vet or pro saddle-fitter but I will ask about my saddle not fitting correcting and see what she says?

Although she has put a few rides on him in the past (when I wasn't able to control him) and she said that he stands fine for her. That she thinks he just isn't a fan of standing for the mounting block. Even so, I have tried mounting from the ground and he still won't stand still.

I really hope that it's just something simple associated with tackl and not any type of injury. I really will feel so bad if he has been in pain and I have been punishing him for sad as it sounds, I hope it's a "I'm the boss" issue so atleast I don't have to feel bad for hitting him.

Thanks for your input, I'll let you know what happens!
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    02-02-2012, 12:40 AM
I'm really sorry if I offended anyone! I guess I could have worded that a bit better..of course I posted this thread for your opinions but what I meant was I was not going to do some irresponsible thing that 'someone on the Internet' told me to do. Hope you understand now..I really do appreciate anything anyone has to long as its funny or helpful! ;)
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    02-02-2012, 12:40 AM
An ill-fitting saddle does not always leave sores/pressure point marks. Also, back pain does not always come from poorly suited tack. I strongly encourage you to get a chiropractor out to work on him.

    02-02-2012, 12:40 AM
Kick him back.....
I can say that because the advice is not going to be used..tee he..

Pain first..then training...
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