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        10-18-2012, 08:01 AM
      #51
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by Cowgirls Boots    
    I'm definitely not dismissing anyone's help. The test I will inquire about when she comes out for the hoof. I was under the impression that the test was expensive. (I was told it can be fairly pricey) which is why I said it will have to wait between the corrective shoes and the vet coming out again I'm sure this vet bill won't be pretty.


    She rears with any type of halter..haven't tried the rope yet but with or without the chain she rears either way.
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    Sorry, I agree that you are making excuses, both for her behavior (afraid of the chain, etc) and for you not trying things that are suggested. (not getting the Lymes done). Honestly-if she has Lymes, doesn't it seem sort of silly to fix part of the horse by fixing the foot and not the rest? The actual Lymes test seems miniscule in the big picture, cost wise to me. Makes no sense to me, but then, I am one who believes it all fits together like a puzzle at times. One thing leads to another. Think about it. If you feel crappy (not to humanize horses, but, as an example), and you run your foot into the foot of the bed doesn't it seem to hurt more than if you are feeling good?

    If you haven't tried a rope halter, you don't know she rears with any type, do you? Rope is different than nylon and leather. I haven't used a chain on one of my horses in years. I actually see no need to own one any longer. To me it seems to be a pretty simple thing, but then, you actually have to try it.

    Good luck-
         
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        10-18-2012, 08:14 AM
      #52
    Green Broke
    Sorry, I don't see where I'm making excuses. Either way the shoes need to be put on due to me not beig able to get the meds properly in the hoof. And lymes test I said I would ask the vet when she comes out? Where's an excuse in that? And I also said I never tried a rope halter but so far she's reared in everything I've put her in. I asked for suggestions but if I don't say 'oh ill hve that done right away!!' It seems to be an excuse. I do appericiate all the opinions and help but saying I'm making excuses is asinine. The only reason I said the lymes test would haveto wait alittle bit is because I was told it was crazy expensive which I have 3 vet bills to still pay and am on a strict budget til then. But, you guys have told me it isn't as expensive as I was told so I will have a chat with the vet about that on Monday. I have been looking into all the suggestions that have been made to me to get further details on them. And she has been better since being started on smart calm as well...
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        10-18-2012, 12:28 PM
      #53
    Weanling
    For Magnesium supplements I had to triple what they tell you to feed - then over time I could slowly back it down. That has helped me get my old horse (temperment) back.

    For the rearing - the second you see that look like she's thinking about rearing you must dis-engage the hindquarters. Hard for a horse to rear when they are crossing their hind legs (leg yield) - as they will fall over. So if she tends to rear when you ask her for a hoof have someone stand by her girth area when you ask for the hoof and the microsecond she gets light in front ask her to cross her hind legs over. That should stop the rearing.
         
        10-18-2012, 12:39 PM
      #54
    Green Broke
    I will have to try that, Valentina.

    Does it make any difference that she'll do it out of nowhere? I can pick up the hoof fine and be holding onto it for a good period of time and randomly she'll freak and rearing backwards. It's out of nowhere. But she always lets me pick up the hoof. It also makes it hard that she rears up and flys backwards because I usually tie her to something and I can't because shell break her halter or whatevr she's tied to. She's done that a time or two before.
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        10-18-2012, 01:16 PM
      #55
    Showing
    I missed the part that your mare is blind in one eye. That could account for some of the negative behaviour at the new barn. Changing barns is very stressful for horses. You are removing them from the herd they knew into a new one. Horses give off numerous subtle signals that the new horse isn't welcome as it upsets the dynamics. They don't know where it will try to be in the order of dominance. Have you tried spending hang out time with her? Take something and sit inside or just outside of her stall and just be there. Read and ignore her. If you do this for a week or so it should make a positive difference. After this take her for walks, to be sure she see's everything both coming and going. Take her to the round pen along with your chair and book and sit outside the pen. Let her do what she wants in there. Offer a few treats if she's relaxed. You need to build a foundation of trust and when it begins to happen it's magical.
         
        10-18-2012, 01:27 PM
      #56
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
    I missed the part that your mare is blind in one eye. That could account for some of the negative behaviour at the new barn. Changing barns is very stressful for horses. You are removing them from the herd they knew into a new one. Horses give off numerous subtle signals that the new horse isn't welcome as it upsets the dynamics. They don't know where it will try to be in the order of dominance. Have you tried spending hang out time with her? Take something and sit inside or just outside of her stall and just be there. Read and ignore her. If you do this for a week or so it should make a positive difference. After this take her for walks, to be sure she see's everything both coming and going. Take her to the round pen along with your chair and book and sit outside the pen. Let her do what she wants in there. Offer a few treats if she's relaxed. You need to build a foundation of trust and when it begins to happen it's magical.

    She acts nothing like you would think she would being she has one eye. We had (well I thought) a seriously good bond until we moved and its been all down hill since then. At the old place she was beaten on by other horses and was on Alot less acreage with more horses. Now it's just my two and soon to be adding my Camelot pony to the mix for some more 'companionship'. I've spent a good amount of time with her in the paddock and outside grazing but she isn't the type of horse that wants much attention or affection unless you have treats ;). She's been at the new place for 4 months now with my gelding whom she's been turned out with occasionally at the old place. Neither are very bossy but stand there ground. They rarely ever pick on eachother. I will try spending more time with her though.

    At the old place she use to come running to me when she was called. Now the only time I can get her to come to me is when it's feeding time.
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        10-18-2012, 01:51 PM
      #57
    Yearling
    I know i'm going to sound crazy right now, but i'm going to give it a shot. How many times a day do you see her/treat her?? She might want some time to be a horse, and be left alone (but with an injury or something similar its difficult). My mare turns into a total craba$$ when I work with her more than once a day for so many days at a time. She'd just go ballistic. I would let her throw her fit, and act like a moron for a few seconds, get her back under control, and ask her to do something simple that she already knew, and leave it on a good note. When she had an abscess in RH, she was the worst, I got bit and kicked 3 times in one week and 4 more the next. She was horrible. She might just want a break, everyone needs one (even if their hurting). Best of luck!!!!
         

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