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    08-01-2012, 02:49 PM
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Weanling
Horse Rearing when you pick up her hoof. Help?

So the farrier came out today and was working on one of my mares. Started with her bad hoof(left front) and had done both rear feet and was getting ready to do her right front. He tried to pick up her left front hoof, she reared up started running backwards while on 2 feet and flipped over. Then she jumped up and kept freaking out, then the farrier tried to catch her and got his thumb caught in her halter and broke it. Her bad hoof is the left front, it is severely overgrown and curled(but getting better) it is weight baring, but she does limp most of the time. She ALWAYS rears when I try to pick up her right front hoof to pick it out to the point of she has flipped over a couple times, I'm 99% sure it is because she doesn't want to put weight on her bad hoof because it hurts.
Any ideas on how to get her to stop rearing?
     
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    08-01-2012, 03:22 PM
  #2
Weanling
Gotta get the sore hoof healthy, however for this case you need to sedate her and get her hooves trimmed correctly. Going to be pricey because you are going to need the vet and the farrier but this is the only way you are going to get it done this time and likely next time too but it isn't fair to the horse or the farrier. A broken thumb just put him/her out of work for 4 to 6 weeks and made them slower for 3 months or better. Farrier should have known better so they share responsibility but you need to get the hooves in shape. Then when the horse is no longer in pain you can work on the training.
     
    08-01-2012, 03:32 PM
  #3
Green Broke
When it is a pain thing it's wrong to try and force her to do anything with it, including trying to teach her not to rear. Obviously it causes her alot more pain to have to bare all her weight on one foot without having the other to compensate and therefor I doubt she's rearing to misbehave. It's the only thing she thinks she can do to relieve the pain.
I agree that the best thing to do would be to get a vet out and sedate her so that you can get the bad foot taken care of right away.
     
    08-01-2012, 05:43 PM
  #4
Super Moderator
If she were mine, I would give her 1 gm of Bute orally several hours before I was going to try to handle the good foot. That keeps the bad foot from hurting.

If you can find a Vet that will give you 1 cc of ACE in a syringe, that low dose is usually enough to get a horse trimmed. I just give it orally about 1 hour before I want to work on a horse.

Then, I would put her butt in a corner and I WOULD NOT pull on the lead-rope.

We have trimmed several crippled horses this way and always managed to 'sneak' around them. We have so many horses that our Vet lets us keep Bute, ACE and other prescription Meds here at the ranch. I can call him after hours and he does not have to come out. He just tells me what to do. I would not use a Vet that did not let me do that -- but then, we have a bunch of horses.
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    08-01-2012, 05:44 PM
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Started
I agree that tranq. Is the way to go. I would let the vet know the situation and they should stay until that foot is done. Which means doing the bad one first. That way they can give more tranq. If needed. What is the history on this horse? Where were they from and what did they do/have done to get into this condition?

Edit: a word on Ace. A lot of vets may not give it to someone without an established vet/patient relationship. Also, a freaked horse will blow through ace in a minute or two. Ace is nice because most owners think its great and does something but a lot of vets dispense it for owners to administer because its not that effective. At least the vets I have worked with feel that way. The vet pulls up to your house to tranq. Your horse for farrier, vet work etc they are not reaching for ace. Don't get me wrong ace can work for taking the edge of a stall crazy horse but its not for a horse with a serious problem its a waste.
     
    08-01-2012, 06:06 PM
  #6
Super Moderator
Dermosidan is a lot better tranquilizer, but most Vets will not dispense it. It is very expensive and it and the Vet call will usually be over $100.00. ACE is pretty effective if you give it orally BEFORE you get a horse reactive or upset. Then, it is not worth a flip. We have used ACE for 40 or 50 years and have gotten along with it just fine but usually use it at a very low dose. The horse does not act tranquilized but sure loses a lot of its 'fight' if handled right. If you don't fight them, you can usually sneak around them just fine.
     
    08-01-2012, 06:23 PM
  #7
Yearling
If you have access to a barn and can rig up a sling that helps to.
     
    08-01-2012, 07:04 PM
  #8
Green Broke
I agree with getting the vet to tranq/sedate the horse. Even though it will cost more, have the vet come out in person and give the "good stuff" since your horse needs the farrier care so badly.

My vet gave me 5cc of Ace (fed over grain 30 min before the farrier) to attempt to overcome my horse's fear of hot shoeing, but it either wore off before the hot shoeing or just wasn't very effective. I wouldn't have my vet come and do the full sedation for my horse since it's really a training issue- he stands fine for the rest of the shoeing process, just doesn't like the smell/sound/smoke from forge & hot fitting.
     
    08-01-2012, 07:55 PM
  #9
Weanling
Think I read that wrong.. did the halter or the farrier's thumb break? Not clear but I gess the thumb before the halter but could be wrong...
     
    08-01-2012, 10:59 PM
  #10
Super Moderator
Your problem with ACE was giving a full dose. Horses panic when it suddenly comes through what you are doing. 1cc works better than 2 or 3 or 4 or for sure, 5ccs. I do not know why it works that way, but 1 cc will take the edge off and the fear reaction and the panic reaction are usually a lot less than with more ACE.
     

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