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    10-07-2009, 05:56 PM
  #21
Foal
I have had the same problem with my horses. He was just being really stubborn. I used a wip. And made him go. If you get off you are telling him or her that they have won. I tried to use a tie down, but he flipped out and reared up. Thank fully I was not on him. If you do decide to use a tie down I would suggest lounging him or her first, so they are use to it.
     
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    10-07-2009, 10:14 PM
  #22
Trained
Lots of good ideas here, but if I read this correctly, she is 2 and you are riding her? Why not just focus on ground work for another 6 months. Remember also that a young horse's attention span is not very long. Perhaps she is getting frustrated from effort after too long of a session?
     
    10-07-2009, 11:53 PM
  #23
Trained
In my experience,these are bad/counterproductive things to do on a rearer:

Tie downs/headcheks/standing martingales
Backing up
Getting off

Again in my experience, I have had success with these ideas:

Forward, at all costs. I growl, I flap my arms, I kick, over under the reins, yell. Basically making the horse think that the sky is falling in if they don't go forward.

Disengaging the hindquarters. This is what is happening when you say she doesn't rear when you turn her head. Get her circling, then try moving forward. If she gets stuck again? More circles.

The MAIN reason for a rear is a broken forward button. A rear can physically only happen when forward momentum stops. This is why backing up can be a bad idea, the weight is on the hind, just poised to go up. Go over forward from the ground up. She should ALWAYS listen to your forward cue, if not, escalate the pressure.
     
    10-08-2009, 07:13 AM
  #24
Foal
We had a mare that was a SUPER bad rearer too. The ONLY thing that works is to have a rope with a knot on the end and give them a good whack under their bellies when they rear up. (While you are ON them!)

This is ONLY if you have established that the rearing is purely napping/naughty behaviour and not due to genuine fear, pain, poorly fitting tack etc etc.
     
    10-08-2009, 07:18 AM
  #25
Foal
The psychology behind using the rope technique mentioned above is that a horse, being a prey animal, will instinctively drop down to protect its soft underbelly. They also don't associate the smack with the rider, so it will not damage your relationship with your horse and make them fear or resent you.

I agree though, 2 is FAR too young to back a horse and it is entirely possible that your horse just doesn't understand what you are asking her to do!!!! I would go back to building a good relationship on the ground. Try getting Richard Maxwell's book "From Birth to Backing". It will help alot! :)
     
    10-10-2009, 11:05 PM
  #26
Foal
Ok, just so everyone knows, my mare is great on the ground. I have been doing Clinton Andersons DVDs, All of them, sence May. She will do anything for me on the ground. Nothing scares her and she never refuses to do anything. I have not pushed this mare under saddle. I don't work her more than an hour a day at the most under saddle. I don't back her more than a few steps just to make sure she knows what back is. Im not sure why everyone is talking about backing her when I never really said anything about backing her. I don't plan on using a tie down on her as I have never used them and have herd enough that I know that wouldnt be the answer. When I wrote the post it was more out of frustration than really thinking it over. I know that the whole problem is that she is scared to go and has been taught through the Clinton Anderson to Stay put in scarey situations. I guess it just didnt dawn on me till I thought about it. When you use his methodes he teaches you to teach the horse to scare in place. Like for example you take his stick with a bag on it and desensitize the horse by asking it to stand in one place and take being frightened. So now I have to figure out how to get her to trust me in those scarey situations and understand that she can go forward and it not hurt her. I know I have to keep her feet moving that is why I turned her in circles when she did stop and rear. But it still hasnt gotten to the point that I can get her to go forward. I plan on working with her tomorrow on this as they just took the corn off the back field and im sure something out there will be scarey to her. I will let you know how it goes. Thanks everyone for all the advice. There has been some really good advice on here and I papreciate it!
     
    10-11-2009, 07:40 AM
  #27
Weanling
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Tomorrow Im going to try backing her when she gets stuck and see where that gets me.
You did say you were going to try backing her :) At 2 imo she is just not mentally ready for an hour of riding per day. That is a lot for a 2 year old.

I agree with the others that I would take her back to ground work all winter and try riding again in the spring
     
    10-11-2009, 09:20 AM
  #28
Foal
A running martingale might help it would keep her head down and turn her in circles the important thing is keep her moving and stay safe an old trainer told me that if a horse rears you should give them a pretty good nudge with your heels it acts just like if you had your arms over your head and someone poked you in the ribs what would you do .............. pull your elbows down quickly
     
    10-11-2009, 11:12 AM
  #29
Trained
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Originally Posted by GandRPaints    
ok, just so everyone knows, my mare is great on the ground. I have been doing Clinton Andersons DVDs, All of them, sence May. She will do anything for me on the ground. Nothing scares her and she never refuses to do anything.
That means she is confident and understands what is expected of her. Excellent!

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I have not pushed this mare under saddle. I don't work her more than an hour a day at the most under saddle.
An hour under saddle IS pushing a 2 year old. That is just too much for her maturity level both mentally and physically.

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Im not sure why everyone is talking about backing her when I never really said anything about backing her.
As above -- yes, you did. Maybe you should keep a journal of what you do with her every day and the results of the day. This will help you to keep things consistent, you may see a pattern and you can figure out what works well and what doesn't.

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So now I have to figure out how to get her to trust me in those scarey situations and understand that she can go forward and it not hurt her.
You are assuming it is fear. That is possible, however, given that she is fine when you are not on her and asking her to move forward, I would look more towards confusion, frustration or pain being a culprit. When she is tired and inattentive due to her age, the confusion and frustration can kick in quite quickly.

I think you are asking too much of her.
     
    10-11-2009, 12:04 PM
  #30
Weanling
^ the journal is a very good idea. I did when I had problems with my horse and he missbehaves if I ride during or right after hay was put out by the land owner.
     

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