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    09-11-2011, 08:01 PM
  #1
Foal
Horse refresher course. Barn Sour

Ok so after the owners on my last mount said I could no longer ride her(due to selling) Im on a new mount. Her name is Shania and she's a flea bitten grey Arabian. She came in a bag of bones and is now at a weight she can be ridden. She's had a total of 4 rides this year, 2 by me. It had been a LONG time since she had been ridden. She has GREAT ground manners but isn't very well behaved when being ridden. She likes to go by the gate and just stand there(i don't let her). When ever we get her to the other side of the area she bolts to the gate(not listening to me trying to stop her). I don't let her get near the gate by turning her a different way but we usually end up going in circles for a while. She doesnt listen to leg pressure/neck reining. She kind of listens to direct reining but really(tries) going where ever she wants. Any advice helps. Am I doing this right? I have an "instructor" that says I am but I want a little more input.

I also posted this on another forum and told I was doing it right and to work her near the gate and rest her when we get away from it and that she's "Barn sour" .Just want a few more opinions =)
     
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    09-11-2011, 10:34 PM
  #2
Yearling
I would say so, yes you are doing fine.

I have ridden a standard bred gelding that was gate sour too. He would always gravitate towards the gate and would try to run through the bit to get what he wanted.He's better now Just keep on her, she will get better.
     
    09-12-2011, 03:24 AM
  #3
Started
My avatar Stella is barn sour being hooked into her paddock mate. The steps I have taken are to walk her away from her mate untill she starts getting head high. I stop and stand for a while then return to the shed. Each time I go further and further away but allowing the horse to dictate with her feelings how she is.

The aim is to teach her to rely on me, its slow but some progress is being made.
We now get out of sight, but not yet ear. They can still call to each other and it is pitifull to hear.
     
    09-12-2011, 03:52 AM
  #4
Foal
My mare was the same way for a long time. The way I fixed it was everytime we went by the gate I made her work more. Make her back up, pivot, sidestep ect. Soon she'll learn that coming to the gate doesnt automatically let her be done. If she goes to it she's going to be working harder then going calmly around the arena and obeying her rider.
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    09-12-2011, 08:44 AM
  #5
Super Moderator
I need some more information about you to give an appropriate answer.

How old are you?


How experienced are you?


Are you riding all of the time with an instructor or just once in a while?


Is this arena in a big stable and shared with other riders?


Is there any place you can ride out of the arena or is that the only place you can ride?


I am going to copy part of a recent post I answered about another gate sour horse. These are the kinds of things that every rider needs to do to prevent a horse from getting barn/gate sour and will help horses that already are.

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This is a very common 'vice' when riders do not know how to prevent a horse from disliking their 'work area' and allow them to think that rest, relief, removing all pressure and only 'good' things happen outside the arena and only work and drudgery happen inside the arena.

There are some things that ALL riders can do to prevent this kind of behavior from starting in the first place.

1) Rest a horse often in an arena ONLY when the horse is doing things well and wanting to go forward freely. Then, rest him at the point farthest from the gate. Or, if there is a particular place in the arena he tries to avoid or is afraid of, simply rest him there. Rest in the arena is the only reward he needs for doing well.

2) When you are ready to leave the arena, never ever let a horse just turn and ride out of the gate. Always go past the gate (preferably to the farthest point from the gate), stop, stand him still while mounted for at least a minute. When, AND ONLY WHEN, he is relaxed and standing still on a loose rein, get off, loosen your girth and lead him out of the gate. Again, reward good behavior.

This is how I have made my students and 4-H riders quit each riding session for more than 40 years and not one has had a horse get gate sour. They NEVER are ridden out of the gate.

[I also do not let riders stop near the gate to visit with people standing along the rail.]

3) If you are at a show and must ride out of the gate, ride your horse directly to a work area and work him hard. I prefer to work a horse harder outside AFTER a show class than he did in the ring. Then, at the far end of the work area (out of the way of other riders), stop and rest the horse on a loose rein for at least a minute (5 minutes is better), then get off, loosen the girth and lead the horse back to his stall or trailer or wherever you saddled and got him ready.

You must reward good behavior and never inadvertently reward unwanted behavior.

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    09-12-2011, 11:30 AM
  #6
Weanling
I agree with cherie and ropercastle, my mare would turn around and go basicaly the opisite of were I was wanting her to go...turn around on trail in areana werever...what my instructor had me do is start in arena and when she's tire of me giving instructions and try to go her own way I would turn her in a few circles and ask her to go forward if she still would not I would make her work the direction she had turned, do figured eights wide circles, run laps whatever, then id stop her and ask to go back the other direction.....from my seat with hands forward and all my mind power ....as soon as she step forward id reward her....it has worked awsome...ive had her turn on a trail only once since and it only took me turning her in a coulpe of tight circles and we were good to go....their way means work work work....ours is work reward work reward good luck I hope you get through it with your horse I know I was very upset, frustrated too at begining but now I feel we both made progress
     
    09-12-2011, 11:35 AM
  #7
mls
Trained
Part of it may be barn sour but I think more of it is patience and energy. Or rather lack of.

I see it frequently. Folks futz with their horse once or twice a month and then suddenly decide they are going to really work their horse. The attention span isn't there. Horse is confused at the sudden change and simply wants to be done. Not to mention the horse is not in shape - most times the rider isn't either.

Gradually work the mare up to the time and intensity of the workout you are used to.
     
    09-12-2011, 04:06 PM
  #8
Foal
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Originally Posted by Cherie    
I need some more information about you to give an appropriate answer.

How old are you?


How experienced are you?


Are you riding all of the time with an instructor or just once in a while?


Is this arena in a big stable and shared with other riders?


Is there any place you can ride out of the arena or is that the only place you can ride?


I am going to copy part of a recent post I answered about another gate sour horse. These are the kinds of things that every rider needs to do to prevent a horse from getting barn/gate sour and will help horses that already are.

Im 18

I'v been riding since I was 3 but have been off for 2 years.

I'm able to out there and work with her about once a week. (gas is expencive)

I share only with one other rider, my SIL.

This is the only place i'm able to ride.

I have riden her a total of 2 times and when she goes to the gate she's worked(lots of circles! Lol) I dismount her in the middle of the arena, stand for a minute then walk her out.
     
    09-13-2011, 04:13 AM
  #9
Foal
It sounds like your on the right track. Its just going to take alot of patience and hard work to get her to behave and follow your commands. If youve only ridden her twice it might be a trust issue. Spend some quality TLC time with her, grooming her, getting her used to you and build a relationship so she comes to enjoy being out in the arena with you.
     

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